GOAT Bay Area Athlete Jerry, Steph or Barry?

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i kinda agree. Many put pat mahomes over montana right now. I don't agree with that.


i feel like top 3 should be

montana
rice
steph



Bonds gets the boot because of roid allegation and he didn't win the world series which is a shame.
I would say Barry Bonds is the best to play in the Bay Area.

Just because I'm a baseball fan and I played the game and I know how insanely difficult it is to do what he did.

That said, I understand he didn't win a championship so he doesn't carry the same prestige.
 

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#1 - Steph: The Warriors hadn't won a championship since the 70s and were bad for about a decade. Bringing 4 championships to the franchise gives him a slight edge.
#2 - Rice: Slight deduction for Montana and the Niners winning a chip before he got there. Still won 4 while he was the man.
#3 - Bonds: Dude was a video game during his prime. His team just never won a Championship.

This is based only value to the Bay Area. The Warriors also are the only Bay Area basketball team while the Bay has the fan base split between Niner and Raider fans.
Jerry Rice won three rings, not four
 

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Possibly the most disrespected NFL player of the last 40 years.

Fans today don't acknowledge him whatsoever. Once Brady passed him in SB titles, he became irrelevant to fans. The average football viewer today would probably mention Drew Brees before they talked about Joe Montana.

It's a shame, really.

i kinda agree. Many put pat mahomes over montana right now. I don't agree with that.

That 'MJ Never Lost a Finals=GOAT' meme needs to Apply to Joe:hmm:
 
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It's Jerry.

The greatest football player, EVER, regardless of position.

Barry Bonds is next. He was a HOFer just off his pre-steroids career.

Steph....tempted to put Steph over Bonds but, I can't name too many MLB players before Bonds.

Where does Steph rank in NBA history? He's behind MJ, Kareem, Wilt, Magic, Bird, LeBron, maybe even Kobe....greatest shooter fa sho, but it gets dicey when we're talking the best of the best. Would you rank him over Hakeem or Shaq? Iffy proposition. He's #1 in terms of maximizing his ability.
 

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Do you want to give a breakdown of where they placed everyone? Requires a paid subscription for me to see.

here it is

Here’s our Bay Area Sports Hall of Fame: Only the best of the best allowed in​

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Reggie Jackson is of the belief that there should be a Hall of Fame for the real Hall of Famers, a place where the ghosts of Babe Ruth and Walter Johnson could roam the sacred grounds without bumping into, say, Tommy McCarthy and his 0.2 Wins Above Average over 13 seasons.
In an interview a few years ago, Mr. October rattled off a few of his contemporaries who were lowering the real-estate value in Cooperstown, a list that included Gary Carter, Don Sutton, Phil Niekro, Jim Rice and Kirby Puckett.
What about Bert Blyleven?
“No. No, no, no, no,’’ he told Sports Illustrated’s Phil Taylor.
Reggie, have we ever got a place for you.
You’re going to love it here.
The challenge from The Athletic headquarters this week was to put together local versions of the Hall of Fame that would consist of the 25 figures who represented the most impactful athletes/administrators in the history of each region.
The only criterion was that inductees spent their careers in a specific city, not where they were born, which is why we left off notable natives Joe DiMaggio and Tom Brady. This is also why we excluded local college stars such as John Elway (Stanford) and Bill Russell (USF), who are better known for what they did elsewhere.
TWENTY-FIVE? That might work in some markets, but over here, where we can blame the bad traffic on parade routes, that’s barely a starter kit. Consider that the Bay Area could reasonably lay claim to the best baseball player of all time (Willie Mays or Barry Bonds, take your pick), the best football player of all time (Jerry Rice) and the best backcourt of all-time (Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson). Our Mount Rushmore could span the Sierra Nevada.
We’ve had so many dynasties that the next one gets us a free sandwich: The Swingin’ A’s of the ‘70s; the 49ers of the ‘80s; the Giants and Warriors of the ‘10s. The glory days of Al Davis’ renegade Raiders weren’t too shabby, either.
TWENTY-FIVE? Consider that there is an actual Bay Area Sports Hall of Fame that has 180 inductees, 59 from football alone.
For an example of how hard it was to crack our list, consider that our last cuts included Super Bowl MVPs (Jim Plunkett), longtime aces (Dave Stewart) and players immortalized with statues outside stadiums (Juan Marichal, Dwight Clark).
That a high enough standard for you, Reggie?
Without further ado, here is The Athletic Bay Area’s Induction Class for our mythical Hall of Fame. The toughest arguments were settled by powerful recency bias.

THE ELITE FIVE​

1. Joe Montana, 49ers​

Before the 1979 draft, the skinny kid from Notre Dame heard that the Green Bay Packers were interested. New York was a possibility, too. “I was just begging that it was a little bit nicer than that,’’ Montana said years later. Luckily, Joe Cool joined forces with Bill Walsh in San Francisco — and they began warming Bay Area hearts. Montana won four Super Bowls during a 49ers career that lasted through 1992. He won three Super Bowl MVP Awards, and the one time he didn’t, all he did was spot John Candy in the stands before leading a comeback drive capped by a touchdown pass to John Taylor in the final seconds of Super Bowl XXIII.
Montana also won two regular-season MVPs, was a six-time All-Pro and lofted the throw to Clark that became “The Catch.” Though many quarterbacks since have made Montana’s career totals look puny (he ranks 16th in career TD passes, just below Vinny Testaverde), here are the stats to remember: Montana was 4-0 in Super Bowls with 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions and a passer rating of 127.8.

2. Willie Mays, Giants​

It’s not as if he’s underappreciated, but it’s absurd in retrospect to realize that the most exhilarating five-tool player ever won the MVP award only twice. By WAR, the “Say Hey Kid” was the National League’s top player nine times — including six times after the Giants moved to San Francisco. In 1964, for example, Mays led the league with 47 homers, a .990 OPS and 11.0 WAR — and finished sixth in MVP voting. No one was fooled. “If somebody came up and hit .450, stole 100 bases and performed a miracle every day, I’d still look you right in the eye and tell you that Willie was better,’’ his former manager, Leo Durocher once said. It took a while for the Bay Area to warm up to the New York import, but he endures among the most beloved Bay Area athletes of all time.

3. Stephen Curry, Warriors​

Whether it’s his unthinkable half-court swishes or his swirly, inventive drives through the lane, Curry has managed to turn the NBA into one big driveway pickup game. That includes the joy he exudes with doing stuff like winning three NBA championships and back-to-back league MVPs, including becoming the first (and still only) unanimous winner in 2016. The Baby-Faced Assassin is getting up there in years; he’s 32 and a broken hand has limited him to just five games this season. But despite the uncertainty ahead, there are no questions about his legacy as the greatest shooter the league has ever seen. Curry made an NBA record 402 3-pointers during the 2015-16 season, part of five consecutive seasons in which he led the NBA in 3s. He made at least one shot from beyond the arc in 157 consecutive games — only one other player (Kyle Korver, 127) has done it so much as 100 times.
But Curry is just as fun to watch without the ball, as he zips around like a dragonfly from one corner to the other, indefatigable until the final horn.
“You make going to work every day, for me, a true joy,” Warriors general manager Bob Myers said to Curry on the day the guard won his second MVP award. “It’s very hard not to like you. I find it impossible.”
A generation of new Warriors fans wholeheartedly agrees.

4. Al Davis, Raiders​

He was a deeply complicated man — brilliant, rebellious, cantankerous and stealthily compassionate — who somehow boiled his worldview down to three simple words: “Just win, baby.” Davis wore many hats (scout, assistant coach, head coach, general manager, AFL Commissioner) but will be mostly remembered as the tough-minded owner who personified the Silver and Black. At the peak of his powers, Davis transformed a struggling franchise into a three-time Super Bowl champion; the Raiders had the best record in pro sports from 1963 to 1991. “He ran that club the way he saw fit. He brought in players that everyone else was discarding, including me, and he made it work,’’ Plunkett, who won two Super Bowls for the franchise, said upon Davis’ death in 2011. Along the way, Davis broke barriers by hiring Art Shell and Tom Flores as head coaches and Amy Trask as CEO.

5. Rickey Henderson, A’s​

Some records are meant to be broken. But not this one. Not ever. Henderson racked up 1,406 career stolen bases, a mark that will stand for as long as the game is played. The closest player signed to a 2020 contract in affiliated baseball: Dee Gordon, who has 330.
Even Henderson’s origin story comes with a whiff of superhero legend: He wrote in his autobiography that he honed his speed as a kid by racing city buses on the streets of Oakland. And years later, he said his headfirst sliding style was inspired by an airplane landing so smooth he asked the pilot how it was done.
“He said when you land a plane smooth, you get the plane elevated to the lowest position you can and then you smooth it in,’’ Henderson once said. “Same with sliding.”
Henderson did everything in style, whether it was talking in the third person, making snatch catches with a flourish or inspiring local legends (like the apocryphal one about the time he mistook John Olerud for the actual John Olerud).
Few things were as fun as watching Henderson crouch impossibly low and dare pitchers to squeeze one into his acorn-sized strike zone. Henderson’s 2,190 walks rank second all-time to Barry Bonds.

 

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THE REST OF THE HALL​

(In alphabetical order)

Rick Barry, Warriors​

His free throws were underhanded; his personality could be over the top. In both cases, Barry stubbornly did things his way. And because he did, the Warriors pulled off one of the most unlikely championships in NBA history. Barry averaged 29.5 points in the 1975 Finals to help a plucky band of underappreciated Warriors complete a shocking four-game sweep of the Washington Bullets. To that point, the only member of an NBA championship team to have posted a higher scoring average in the Finals was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (31.7 points per game in 1971).
“Rick may not be the kind of guy to say please,’’ teammate Clifford Ray once said, “but he’s in it to win it.”
Until Curry and his dynasty-minded friends came along, that was the only championship the Warriors had since moving to the Bay Area in 1960.
Nicknamed the “Miami Greyhound” by broadcaster Bill King, Barry scored at least 50 points in a game 14 times during his Warriors career (Curry has six such games).

Vida Blue, A’s and Giants​

Blue was the personification of one of those split-bill Bay Bridge caps — part A’s, part Giants. Combine his Northern California career and you get a pitcher who went 196-144 with a 3.15 ERA and started two All-Star Games — one in each league.
He makes The Athletic Bay Area’s hall largely on the strength of his Oakland days, including his supernova 1971 season when he went 24-8 and recorded 301 strikeouts with a 1.82 ERA to win both the Cy Young and MVP. That season, owner Charlie Finley also offered Blue $2,000 to change his name to “True.”
“If he thinks it’s such a great name,’’ Vida concluded, “why doesn’t he call himself True O. Finley?”
Blue withstood the strong years of Dave Stewart and, later, “The Big Three” to remain Oakland’s all-time leader in innings (1,945 2/3), complete games (105), shutouts (28) and strikeouts (1,315). He later pitched for the Giants from 1978-81 and ’85-86.

Barry Bonds, Giants​

There is no character clause surrounding this particular local election, largely because San Francisco crowds always granted him immunity, anyway. The cheers here were always louder than the boos anywhere. For the better part of 15 seasons in San Francisco, nobody made a beer run when Bonds was at the plate. You thought he might do something, and he did. “I don’t shake my head and say, ‘How did he do that?’ He’s done it about a hundred thousand times,’’ former manager Dusty Baker once said.
By the time Bonds was nudged into a reluctant retirement after the 2007 season, he’d hit 762 home runs to top Hank Aaron’s all-time record, walked 2,558 times to overtake Henderson and posted a 162.8 career WAR to surpass Babe Ruth. Bonds won five of his MLB-record seven MVPs while with the Giants. No other player in MLB history has won more than three.

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Madison Bumgarner, Giants​

Remember the parameters for this Hall – “the most impactful athletes” — because we’re using that to justify MadBum over Marichal, who had a superior career, and Tim Lincecum, who burned brighter at his peak. But it is impossible to tell the story of the Giants dynasty without spinning the Bunyanesque yarn about the time a no-nonsense farm boy came strolling out of the bullpen on two days’ rest to throw five shutout innings of relief in Game 7 of the 2014 World Series.
In doing so, he became the first pitcher with two wins, a sub-0.50 ERA and at least 20 innings in a single World Series since Sandy Koufax did it for the 1965 Dodgers. “You know what? I can’t lie to you anymore,’’ Bumgarner said after his final out. “I’m a little tired now.”
The clutch performance was no fluke. Over the course of the Giants’ three World Series runs, Bumgarner pitched in 16 playoff games. The left-hander went 8-3 with a 2.11 ERA in those appearances, with 87 strikeouts and 18 walks. His combined totals for the Giants’ World Series victories in 2010, 2012 and 2014: 4-0, 36 innings, one earned run and an ERA of 0.25.

Brandi Chastain, U.S. soccer​

Four months before she made the most famous goal in women’s soccer history, Chastain missed a penalty shot because she lost the mental battle. The U.S. was playing China in Portugal that day and as she geared up for the penalty shot, Chastain took one last look.
“The goalkeeper is standing there and winks at me,’’ the San Jose-born former Santa Clara University standout said. “And it’s this weird moment, like two boxers in the middle of the ring. And she kind of unnerves me. … And I didn’t handle that moment very well. It just kind of threw me off.”
Suffice to say, she got her revenge. When it really mattered, on July 10, 1999, in the Women’s World Cup finals, Chastain drilled the fifth kick in the penalty shootout for the victory over China. Her ensuing celebration, pulling off her jersey and falling to her knees in a sports bra, became what the New York Times called “the most iconic photograph ever taken of a female athlete.” Talk about impact.
Chastain wound up winning two FIFA Women’s World Cup titles as part of a career that spanned from 1988-2004. There’s now a statue outside the Rose Bowl commemorating the magic moment.

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