God returning to God???

[GrindtooFilthy]

It's because you're using religious text, posters are going to dismiss what you said but replace universe for god and watch everyone change their tone

also what your saying has been rehashed a thousand times, this is where an one aspect of reincarnation falls into place

 

[Mac Brown]

God said in the book of Genesis

Let us make man in our image.

Think about that !

 

[kevm3]

no, God is not returning to God. We are headed towards the end times and God's sheep will get to return to God. Hindu Buddhist Christ is new age rhetoric for the coming of the antiChrist who will pose as a 'universal teacher' who will attempt to be Christ to the Christians, Krishna to the Hindus and Buddha to the Buddhists. They will try to unite the world under this one false religion. Do not be deceived, Jesus is the only way to the Father.

 

[blase_chic]

Where is it talked about in the old testament though?

Council of Nicea was down with Jesus and the new testament. Not so much the OT though

I'm not going to address the reincarnation aspect right now but I think I remember you being in another thread stating that you do no believe in Jesus but you believe in the Torah.

Lemme ask you something.

Who do you think the king that is prophesied in the old testament to rule the earth in the examples below will be??

But the LORD will still give you proof. A virgin is pregnant; she will have a son and will name him Immanuel. (Isaiah 7:14)

A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called, “Wonderful Counselor,”
“Mighty God,” “Eternal Father,”
“Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)


A better question maybe would be, what characteristics do you think that King will have?

Even if you refuse to believe Yashua was the Messiah because he didn't fulfill all the promises, how would you be able to distinguish between the king that you're waiting to come and the King Yahshua/Jesus?

 

[Everythingg]

They lived for like 500 600 years in the old testament...was there really a need for it back then....flood happened and the game changed...if they was Pro Yashua why they take out his teachings on reincarnation....why they took out the book of Barnabas...that proves he undoubtedly existed...Council of Nice a=1st generation illuminati....let it swim...

What did they take out? The gospel of barnabas came way after the 4 gospels.. Not sure if thats a good example

 

[Everythingg]

Who do you think the king that is prophesied in the old testament to rule the earth in the examples below will be??

David/Son of David

But the LORD will still give you proof. A virgin is pregnant; she will have a son and will name him Immanuel. (Isaiah 7:14)

A child is born to us!
A son is given to us!
And he will be our ruler.
He will be called, “Wonderful Counselor,”
“Mighty God,” “Eternal Father,”
“Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)

Read the context of Isaiah 7. The child was a sign for King Ahaz that God would be with him. Its not a prophecy for something to happen hundreds to thousands of years later..

A better question maybe would be, what characteristics do you think that King will have?

Even if you refuse to believe Yashua was the Messiah because he didn't fulfill all the promises, how would you be able to distinguish between the king that you're waiting to come and the King Yahshua/Jesus?

Well whoever it is, I assume they'll bring deliverance with them. Not say "I got yall when I come back" like Jesus did. That would be the best way to distinguish between the two..

 

[blase_chic]

David/Son of David



Read the context of Isaiah 7. The child was a sign for King Ahaz that God would be with him. Its not a prophecy for something to happen hundreds to thousands of years later..



Well whoever it is, I assume they'll bring deliverance with them. Not say "I got yall when I come back" like Jesus did. That would be the best way to distinguish between the two..

The point I was trying to make was this. When He returns (or comes for the first and only time according to your belief), what will it matter the difference in our beliefs?

Will you be able to say, nope that's not the one prophesied about and I know this because... xyz? Or, yes! our Messiah is finally here and I know this because... xyz?

How do you distinguish between the two and does it really make any difference in the grand scheme?

One thing we probably can agree on is He won't come preaching roses, cotton candy, and butterflies

And I doubt He'll be like hey guys, I'm baaaack!

 

[The Fade]

Enlighten me on sis and reincarnation

 

[blase_chic]

Enlighten me on sis and reincarnation

That's such a heavy subject that I will maybe discuss it tomorrow. I honestly don't think it's super relevant to our lives or salvation imo, but it does make some things that didn't make sense to me, start to make sense.

 

[Everythingg]

The point I was trying to make was this. When He returns (or comes for the first and only time according to your belief), what will it matter the difference in our beliefs?

Well if you mean "difference in beliefs" as in you may observe the Sabbath every saturday while another does it on the only day he can get off work I agree. If you mean I believe in a false messiah while you believe in the real one (or vice versa) then no. That matters.

You're calling on a false savior for your salvation. How do you think the Most High feels about that when you can read what He said (if we believe the bible's take on that that is) for yourself?In the OT He says only He is the savior and there is NO ONE beside Him. NT comes along and now He has a son that calls himself the savior and says he sits at the right hand of the very One who told you in the OT that no one sits beside Him.. The reality of the situation is that someone wrote that "son" into the belief system of the Hebrews. But I now remember you and giving you historical events that matched what I was saying and you wanted none of it. So hopefully, if you're sincere, the Creator will guide you better than I ever could.

 

[blase_chic]

Well if you mean "difference in beliefs" as in you may observe the Sabbath every saturday while another does it on the only day he can get off work I agree. If you mean I believe in a false messiah while you believe in the real one (or vice versa) then no. That matters.

You're calling on a false savior for your salvation. How do you think the Most High feels about that when you can read what He said (if we believe the bible's take on that that is) for yourself?In the OT He says only He is the savior and there is NO ONE beside Him. NT comes along and now He has a son that calls himself the savior and says he sits at the right hand of the very One who told you in the OT that no one sits beside Him.. The reality of the situation is that someone wrote that "son" into the belief system of the Hebrews. But I now remember you and giving you historical events that matched what I was saying and you wanted none of it. So hopefully, if you're sincere, the Creator will guide you better than I ever could.

He has.
Yashua sits on the right hand of God. He is the other half of the US, and WE written about in the book of Genesis that we debated in that other thread that you were unable to reconcile adequately imo...but, yeah. Do you.

 

[Everythingg]

He has.
Yashua sits on the right hand of God. He is the other half of the US, and WE written about in the book of Genesis that we debated in that other thread that you were unable to reconcile adequately imo...but, yeah. Do you.

I think I reconciled everything just not with the NT that you believe in. I'll always be wrong according to that. But you're wrong according to the other side of the "bible" when you say someone named "Yahshua" sits at the right hand of God. That side says that no one sits beside Him and that He is the ONLY savior (not the “son” is the savior)..

 

[blase_chic]

I think I reconciled everything just not with the NT that you believe in. I'll always be wrong according to that. But you're wrong according to the other side of the "bible" when you say someone named "Yahshua" sits at the right hand of God. That side says that no one sits beside Him and that He is the ONLY savior (not the “son” is the savior)..

Who this then??


Isaiah 53 King James Version (KJV)
53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

 

[Charlie Hustle]

 

[Everythingg]

Who this then??


Isaiah 53 King James Version (KJV)
53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Isaiah said the servant of God is Israel the nation throughout the book. It’s not speaking of one person and especially not JC. That’s why it says “he shall see his seed” when Jesus had none.

Remember how you didn’t consider the context of Isaiah 7:14 when falsely saying it’s about JC? You have to read the OT without the NT in mind to even start to get an understanding about what it’s trying to tell you...