Godfrey talks about African/AA relationship

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Godfrey was on point.

 

[010101]

Actually if you look deeper talking shyt jokingly is a big thing in Africa as well. In Western Africa they have this special social construction called "cousins of jokes" (I don't know how to properly translate it, it's "cousinage de plaisanterie" in french) in which teasing/joking/talking shyt is a social tool to keep groups closer and diplomatically deal with conflict. It's less prominent/instituzionalised in Central Africa to my knowledge but as a kid I remember vividly joking/talking shyt to and with Africans from other countries. And my pops told me it was the same when he was growing up between different ethnic groups.

i dig it that's something children worldwide do

my point was that it's different to have your feelings hurt by childish jokes vs. comments made by grown folk trying to make a point on the difference/separation they imagine there is between you & them

grown ass aa individuals who ain't retarded have a open arm policy to all diaspora folk as long as they come with right energy

no it's not all but you can't say tribalism ain't a big factor with how africans treat other african/african.diasporan individuals

to aa's we all fam but that perspective becomes less common as you get back closer to the motherland (which by the way it's crazy aa's still be on that motherland tip when motherfukkers ain't tryna claim us at all jahahahahaa you can't front we show love)


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[Gold]

Thought this was gonna be some bullshyt, came ready to neg.

But I ended up agreeing with most of what I heard



The way he checked VLAD at the end

Got that cac feeling reeeeeal uncomfortable

 

[Gold]

Didn't watch yet but its crazy how AAs have a closer relationship with hispanics than they do Africans

You should actually watch it

 

[mbewane]

i dig it that's something children worldwide do

my point was that it's different to have your feelings hurt by childish jokes vs. comments made by grown folk trying to make a point on the difference/separation they imagine there is between you & them

grown ass aa individuals who ain't retarded have a open arm policy to all diaspora folk as long as they come with right energy

no it's not all but you can't say tribalism ain't a big factor with how africans treat other african/african.diasporan individuals

to aa's we all fam but that perspective becomes less common as you get back closer to the motherland (which by the way it's crazy aa's still be on that motherland tip when motherfukkers ain't tryna claim us at all jahahahahaa you can't front we show love)


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It's not children, it's adult that do the whole joking/talking shyt I was talking about. That's one of the ways neighbouring ethnic groups ("tribes" is western talk that we need to cut back on, no offense, I included myself in that. What is called "tribalism" is basically nationalism, and African ethnic groups have been mixing with each other for centuries) dealed with each other and solved issues diplomatically. It's far from being something "childish". Unfortunately slavery and colonialism hurt that a lot, when it didn't destroy it totally.

Thing is Black Americans are Westerners, geographically and culturally. So for an African to have a Westerner make fun of him, well you can surely understand how one could not really like it. Whether you acknowledge it or not, the very fact that you're American means you're in a position of power over an African, especially if said African migrates towards the US. The whole "dozens" thing works because it's people who are at the same level making fun of each other, it's fair game. The same way Africans make fun of other African in Africa, because they're all at the same level basically. But there's a different standing in society between AAs and Africans, when both are in the US. One is a Westerner at home, the other is an African immigrant.

That being said I'm by no means saying that Africans are innocent in all of this, I'm well aware of that. There's a disconnect, which means both sides have preconceived ideas about the other. As the breh in video said, media plays a huge role in this, and cultural differences as well. I'm just saying that different and maybe more complex dynamics come into play.

 

[010101]

It's not children, it's adult that do the whole joking/talking shyt I was talking about. That's one of the ways neighbouring ethnic groups ("tribes" is western talk that we need to cut back on, no offense, I included myself in that. What is called "tribalism" is basically nationalism, and African ethnic groups have been mixing with each other for centuries) dealed with each other and solved issues diplomatically. It's far from being something "childish". Unfortunately slavery and colonialism hurt that a lot, when it didn't destroy it totally.

Thing is Black Americans are Westerners, geographically and culturally. So for an African to have a Westerner make fun of him, well you can surely understand how one could not really like it. Whether you acknowledge it or not, the very fact that you're American means you're in a position of power over an African, especially if said African migrates towards the US. The whole "dozens" thing works because it's people who are at the same level making fun of each other, it's fair game. The same way Africans make fun of other African in Africa, because they're all at the same level basically. But there's a different standing in society between AAs and Africans, when both are in the US. One is a Westerner at home, the other is an African immigrant.

That being said I'm by no means saying that Africans are innocent in all of this, I'm well aware of that. There's a disconnect, which means both sides have preconceived ideas about the other. As the breh in video said, media plays a huge role in this, and cultural differences as well. I'm just saying that different and maybe more complex dynamics come into play.

i referred to the dozens as childish

how grown folks deal with one another is something else that should be governed by natural sense & fairness

and nah aa's ain't in no position over nobody we don't see things like that because like i said outside retards or in situations where provoked in petty verbal trades aa's understand all folk who look alike off the jump are all in the same boat

like i said any african.diaspora member that comes here on the cool blends right in to the point you won't even know where a lot of your homeboys are from until they tell you or you meet their folks and you get hit with some different vibes

if anything i'd say african folks get more petty when it comes to the dozens not because they feel they are being talked down to but that we shouldn't be able to talk because we are the castaways

like i said check the ideas held by the best among our populations in the aa/western.diasporan group africa & it's greatness is reverenced to the point of myth motherfukking wakanda

but to the african.elites everything outside your tribe that's static & if not 100% of the time we can at least get the admittance that it's the majority of the time

africas arms aren't even open to itself how can they be open to aa.tribe/western.diasporans¿

over here we jump into the gumbo.pot fast we are quicker to hold on to one another & blend cultures because we basically had to start from scratch again

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[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

Lol what the fukk was the point of vlad even bringing up that shyt if it was an old list?

Vlad: The top 10 poorest countries in the world are in Africa
Godfrey: I'm gonna have to fact check that "list". White folks know how to time shyt. Dropping a poorest country list right when black panther comes out.
Vlad: Oh no. This isn't a new list It's old. No one just dropped it
Godfrey:
Vlad:

Godfrey: Oh. I see what you're doing

 

[mbewane]

i referred to the dozens as childish

how grown folks deal with one another is something else that should be governed by natural sense & fairness

and nah aa's ain't in no position over nobody we don't see things like that because like i said outside retards or in situations where provoked in petty verbal trades aa's understand all folk who look alike off the jump are all in the same boat

like i said any african.diaspora member that comes here on the cool blends right in to the point you won't even know where a lot of your homeboys are from until they tell you or you meet their folks and you get hit with some different vibes

if anything i'd say african folks get more petty when it comes to the dozens not because they feel they are being talked down to but that we shouldn't be able to talk because we are the castaways

like i said check the ideas held by the best among our populations in the aa/western.diasporan group africa & it's greatness is reverenced to the point of myth motherfukking wakanda

but to the african.elites everything outside your tribe that's static & if not 100% of the time we can at least get the admittance that it's the majority of the time

africas arms aren't even open to itself how can they be open to aa.tribe/western.diasporans¿

over here we jump into the gumbo.pot fast we are quicker to hold on to one another & blend cultures because we basically had to start from scratch again

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OK, I wouldn't refer to the dozens as childish myself.

Sorry but the whole "to the african elites anything outisde your tribe" really isn't helping the discussion, sounds kind of a big generalization based on not much. And again, the very fact you keep using "tribe" shows a western point of view, hence the disconnect.

If you study Africa you will see that there has been mixing among different groups and travelling and whatnot for centuries, but the media will let you believe that all Africans hate each other, as if it's the only continent where there are conflicts (no one ever said that Europeans are "tribalistic", even though the continent has only known 70 years of peace). That's exactly what I'm talking about when I talk about the disconnect and the stereotypes that media reinforces.

Not sure if we're moiving forward with this discussion tbh.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Crazy I was just watching this and about to post it up

I respect godfrey no lie I always thought he was on some

 

[The Mad Titan]

Yo he gotta post on the coli

 

[Brer Dog]

Do you have the link to said thread?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/farrakhan-we-dont-want-no-black-women-marrying-no-african-man.615765/

 

[010101]

OK, I wouldn't refer to the dozens as childish myself.

Sorry but the whole "to the african elites anything outisde your tribe" really isn't helping the discussion, sounds kind of a big generalization based on not much. And again, the very fact you keep using "tribe" shows a western point of view, hence the disconnect.

If you study Africa you will see that there has been mixing among different groups and travelling and whatnot for centuries, but the media will let you believe that all Africans hate each other, as if it's the only continent where there are conflicts (no one ever said that Europeans are "tribalistic", even though the continent has only known 70 years of peace). That's exactly what I'm talking about when I talk about the disconnect and the stereotypes that media reinforces.

Not sure if we're moiving forward with this discussion tbh.

iight i am not saying every case is the most extreme

but to act like africans get mixy like it's regular is false bro

can any aa individual move smooth into african society or african family the way african individuals can come west & blend

i can speak first hand having half.congolese cousins who i came up under my grandmothers roof with & knowing how stiff their mom & that side of the family was vs. how my caribbean side/aa side kept it cool tried to bring everyone in together

or being raised in a majority african church/private school from k5-5th grade & seeing/feeling parents trying to keep their children separate like my aa self was finna demonically possess they child(by the way african kids play that two.face game od good wild as fukk when with the aa.demon.gang but will pass the black.bag off fast as fukk when elders are present jahahahahaa it's crazy)

it's different bro unless my experience is rare

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[mbewane]

iight i am not saying every case is the most extreme

but to act like africans get mixy like it's regular is false bro

can any aa individual move smooth into african society or african family the way african individuals can come west & blend

i can speak first hand having half.congolese cousins who i came up under my grandmothers roof with & knowing how stiff their mom & that side of the family was vs. how my caribbean side/aa side kept it cool tried to bring everyone in together

or being raised in a majority african church/private school from k5-5th grade & seeing/feeling parents trying to keep their children separate like my aa self was finna demonically possess they child(by the way african kids play that two.face game od good wild as fukk when with the aa.demon.gang but will pass the black.bag off fast as fukk when elders are present jahahahahaa it's crazy)

it's different bro unless my experience is rare

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Nah I feel you breh I know some Africans are closed towards Westerners, that's part of the whole disconnect thing I was talking about. No doubt about that. Also quite often immigrants (all immigrants, everywhere) are scared of "losing" their culture if they assimilate too much with the local population, while in your interaction with immigrants your culture is not "at risk" (being the "hosting" culture). Hence the whole "keeping children separate", which is usually counter-productive anyway. And the example you give of "two-face" african kids is indeed a classic migration patern in which those kids show one face to their parents and another to their everyday friends...

I'm not saying one side is right and the other is wrong, just saying that there's different realities, experiences, dynamics etc...that come into play.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Cliffs???

 

[Grizzly]

Shoutout to Godfrey man. He gets it.