Good thread on why saying the economy is "Good", is really meaningless

[DEAD7]

By every metric Obama accomplished more with the economy.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

lets get one fukkin thing straight

if the economy isnt good now, then it definitely wasnt good in 2016. are we being consistent here?

Less debt, lower deficit, more tax revenue, unemployment under 5%, more people covered under health insurance, farmers more profitable. In 2016.

So your assertion doesn't quite hold.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

lets get one fukkin thing straight

if the economy isnt good now, then it definitely wasnt good in 2016. are we being consistent here?

Gotta concede this point. The economy is good without question even during the later years of Obama's term the economy was good...at least good enough to help Trump as oppose to the help Obama had when Bush left office.

The caveat here is other areas that don't show the economy is "booming" or "historic".

1. Wages, while rising, have been mostly stagnant.
2. Fed has to tread lightly with interest rates, while they were rising a year or so ago both Trump and the Fed Chairman don't think the economy is strong enough to keep raising rates. Hence the reason the White House now wants QE and the fed to cut rates.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

both Trump and the Fed Chairman don't think the economy is strong enough to keep raising rates.

Wouldn't that mean the economy is "better" as opposed to "good"?

 

[the cac mamba]

Less debt, lower deficit, more tax revenue, unemployment under 5%, more people covered under health insurance, farmers more profitable. In 2016.

So your assertion doesn't quite hold.

the bolded is a blatant lie
Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

more people covered under health insurance is not the economy

deficit and farmers, correct

the bottom line is that the economy right now is better than it was in 2016. im sorry that you cant accept that again, this is not my words; it's CNN's words

 

[the cac mamba]

Gotta concede this point. The economy is good without question even during the later years of Obama's term the economy was good...at least good enough to help Trump as oppose to the help Obama had when Bush left office.

The caveat here is other areas that don't show the economy is "booming" or "historic".

1. Wages, while rising, have been mostly stagnant.
2. Fed has to tread lightly with interest rates, while they were rising a year or so ago both Trump and the Fed Chairman don't think the economy is strong enough to keep raising rates. Hence the reason the White House now wants QE and the fed to cut rates.

thats all ive said

i thought the economy that obama left us was good in 2016. so much so that the narrative has been "this is still obama's economy" up through 2018

but now that it's hit 2019, it's suddenly not as good? 3 percent wage growth and lowest unemployment in 50 years is a good economy. some of you fukkin clowns cant just pick and choose the narrative like this

 

[the cac mamba]

Good God you're stupid as f*ck. :bpfacepalm:

and you're an agenda driven shill there's nothing honorable about denying reality

 

[Secure Da Bag]

the bolded is a blatant lie
Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

Fair enough.

Though that claim being in an editorial is .

Anyway, Ted Cruz said GOP tax cut led to higher revenues. Did it?

Has Revenue Risen in 2018?

Don't quite agree with that editorial's take.

More people covered by health insurance means more contribution into the economy. So yeah, part of the economy.

I didn't realize you were such a CNN fan.

 

[the cac mamba]

Fair enough.

Though that claim being in an editorial is .

Anyway, Ted Cruz said GOP tax cut led to higher revenues. Did it?

Has Revenue Risen in 2018?

Don't quite agree with that editorial's take.

More people covered by health insurance means more contribution into the economy. So yeah, part of the economy.

I didn't realize you were such a CNN fan.

breh, its pretty clear what's happening here. no one in here would admit that one thing trump has done had positive effects

i wasnt even a fan of the tax cut, but when CNN is admitting that the trump economy is good right now and it will present a problem for dems to run against we're just trying to address the reality of the situation

supposedly this recession is right around the corner. i'm not going to root for a recession, but maybe it'll happen and trump will have to own it before 2020

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

the bolded is a blatant lie
Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

more people covered under health insurance is not the economy

deficit and farmers, correct

the bottom line is that the economy right now is better than it was in 2016. im sorry that you cant accept that again, this is not my words; it's CNN's words

Eh....

"Holding a conservative political stance, IBD provides news and analysis on stocks, mutual funds, ETFs, commodities, and other financial instruments aimed at individual investors and financial professionals."

Investor's Business Daily - Wikipedia

 

[the cac mamba]

Eh....

"Holding a conservative political stance, IBD provides news and analysis on stocks, mutual funds, ETFs, commodities, and other financial instruments aimed at individual investors and financial professionals."

Investor's Business Daily - Wikipedia

hopefully the farmers that he fukked over will carry the democrat to the white house, but i think it'll need more than that if these stats are still around next year

 

[Secure Da Bag]

breh, its pretty clear what's happening here. no one in here would admit that one thing trump has done had positive effects

i wasnt even a fan of the tax cut, but when CNN is admitting that the trump economy is good right now and it will present a problem for dems to run against we're just trying to address the reality of the situation

supposedly this recession is right around the corner. i'm not going to root for a recession, but maybe it'll happen and trump will have to own it before 2020

The issue most people have is that Trump's good economy is not as good as people make it sound. There's a lot of caveats and weak foundations holding it up. It's more of a gilded good than actual good.

 

[the cac mamba]

The issue most people have is that Trump's good economy is not as good as people make it sound. There's a lot of caveats and weak foundations holding it up. It's more of a gilded good than actual good.

well i agree with that, but that means obama's was bullshyt too we're in the same economy as 2016, with a couple metrics that are slightly better

also, when the fukk did trump kick people off healthcare i know that he WANTS to, but has that happened yet? i thought they just got rid of the individual mandate and some shyt like that

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

"Economy" and certain metrics were used to simplify a complex topic for easier digestion by the masses
During the innanet era, how about encourging the masses to research, for deeper understanding instead of asking the media to stop watering down concepts...
...not sure how effective it it to suggest that the media complicate the discussion more by detailing the various metrics and multi-variables that may/may not directly/in-directly affect the "Economy," while blaming an entire country for a lost election

 

[Hood Critic]

"Economy" and certain metrics were used to simplify a complex topic for easier digestion by the masses
During the innanet era, how about encourging the masses to research, for deeper understanding instead of asking the media to stop watering down concepts...
...not sure how effective it it to suggest that the media complicate the discussion more by detailing the various metrics and multi-variables that may/may not directly/in-directly affect the "Economy," while blaming an entire country for a lost election

Because the masses consume their research and news from the same platforms. Giving those platforms considerably more weight than what they should have.