Goran Dragic

[Bledswole]

Number games, breh? This aint some irrelevant ESPN made-up stat, this is simple shooting percentage, shots made vs shots attempted. I said flat out that Dragic was a better finisher, you disputed that fact and now you dont like the numbers that prove it?

More attempts are only a good thing if you're exceptional in that range. Russ is good but Goran is better

Dragic sample size is smalled compared to Westbrooks.

Thats like a dude shooting 10 3's in a season and his percentage is 50%

As opposed to someone shooting 100 3's in a season and his percentage being 42%

So.guy #1 is the better shooter?

Yea you keep thinking that.

 

[Malta]

Dragic sample size is smalled compared to Westbrooks.

Thats like a dude shooting 10 3's in a season and his percentage is 50%

As opposed to someone shooting 100 3's in a season and his percentage being 42%

So.guy #1 is the better shooter?

Yea you keep thinking that.

This season Westbrook is 88-159 (55.3%) on shots at the rim, Goran is 181-261 (69.3%). Even more surprising is the fact 44 of those attempts for Goran are assisted, while 42 (almost half) of Russell's attempts were assisted. So Goran isn't just better at finishing at the rim, he's better at creating a shot at the rim off the dribble, and still finishing at a higher percentage.


He is considerably better at finishing at the rim than Russell, you seem to think being more athletic means you're automatically a better finisher. Tony Parker could never jump as high as Russ, but prime Tony and Westbrook aren't even in the same ballpark when it comes to finishing in the lane.

 

[Bledswole]

This season Westbrook is 88-159 (55.3%) on shots at the rim, Goran is 181-261 (69.3%)


He is considerably better at finishing at the rim than Russell, you seem to think being more athletic means you're automatically a better finisher. Tony Parker could never jump as high as Russ, but prime Tony and Westbrook aren't even in the same ballpark when it comes to finishing in the lane.

This year he said as a whole, I give Goran this year because Russ has been hurt.

And Im not thinking that athletic means better finisher no one is talking about Tony Parker.

Dragics sample size on layups doesnt compare to Russells in previous years Russ attempted 200 more layups than Dragic last year and still finished 58% of them Dragic.is not a better finisher than Russ overall.

 

[Malta]

This year he said as a whole, I give Goran this year because Russ has been hurt.

And Im not thinking that athletic means better finisher no one is talking about Tony Parker.

Dragics sample size on layups doesnt compare to Russells in previous years Russ attempted 200 more layups than Dragic last year and still finished 58% of them Dragic.is not a better finisher than Russ overall.

Ok, so what does last year have to do with this year? Currently Dragic has attempted almost twice as many shots at the rim, basically it's not last year. And attempting more doesn't mean much if the other guy is making them at a much higher clip, if you said "last year Russ was better at getting his shots off at the rim" you'd be right, but making them is a different story, and if you're trying to imply he's better at finishing this year you're wrong

 

[Bledswole]

Ok, so what does last year have to do with this year? Currently Dragic has attempted almost twice as many shots at the rim, basically it's not last year. And attempting more doesn't mean much if the other guy is making them at a much higher clip, if you said "last year Russ was better at getting his shots off at the rim" you'd be right, but making them is a different story, and if you're trying to imply he's better at finishing this year you're wrong

Can you read I said this year Dragic is the better finisher, I clearly said Dragic wins this year because Russ has been hurt.

Last year has to do with this year because he said Dragic for his career is a better finisher than Russ, read before you start talking crazy.

 

[Malta]

Can you read I said this year Dragic is the better finisher, I clearly said Dragic wins this year because Russ has been hurt.

Last year has to do with this year because he said Dragic for his career is a better finisher than Russ, read before you start talking crazy.

Last year Dragic finished at a higher clip

The year before that Dragic finished at a higher clip.

The year before that Dragic finished at a higher clip

And the year before that Dragic finished at a higher clip

All the way back to his first stint in Phoenix Dragic was finishing in the lane at a higher percentage than Russ. You have to use qualifiers and excuses, plain and simple Dragic finishes in the lane better than Westbrook, so he was right and you're wrong

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Dragic sample size is smalled compared to Westbrooks.

Thats like a dude shooting 10 3's in a season and his percentage is 50%

As opposed to someone shooting 100 3's in a season and his percentage being 42%

So.guy #1 is the better shooter?

Yea you keep thinking that.

Your example has player A with a very small sample size and player B shooting 10 times that amount. Neither of these are close to analogous to the Russ/Dragic comparison.

Russ last year was around 56% on around 600 attempts, compared to Dragic this year with 69% on about 400 attempts.

Those are both clearly more than large enough sample sizes to be valid. Dragic is better, case closed

 

[Bledswole]

Last year Dragic finished at a higher clip

The year before that Dragic finished at a higher clip.

The year before that Dragic finished at a higher clip

And the year before that Dragic finished at a higher clip

All the way back to his first stint in Phoenix Dragic was finishing in the lane at a higher percentage than Russ. You have to use qualifiers and excuses, plain and simple Dragic finishes in the lane better than Westbrook, so he was right and you're wrong

So by you dumb fukks analogy Anthony Morrow the best 3pt shooter in the league then right?

You dudes is dumb

 

[Bledswole]

Your example has player A with a very small sample size and player B shooting 10 times that amount. Neither of these are close to analogous to the Russ/Dragic comparison.

Russ last year was around 56% on around 600 attempts, compared to Dragic this year with 69% on about 400 attempts.

Those are both clearly more than large enough sample sizes to be valid. Dragic is better, case closed

So Kendall Marshall is a better 3pt shooter than Klay Thompson right?

 

[Eternal Tecate]

Top 5 point guard

More like top 5 player

 

[Eternal Tecate]

He can do everything Dragic can, besides hit the the 3 consistently and is 10x more athletic,when 100% Healthy he brings an element athletically that no other guard can bring with the exception of Rose and MAYBE Wall, making him an instant game changer.

Just my opinion

His athleticism doesn't matter if he's not playing better. What is the bullshyt

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Stats dont mean everything. Most can just look at the two players and conclude Lillard is the better player. Alot of the stats are too close (except fg percentage) to sway anyones vote either way.

Lillard has an element to his game that seperates him from Dragic and most other pgs. Thats why he's an All-Star and Dragic wasnt. Dragics game is basic but effective. Plus I still think hes floating under the radar on most defenses.

Dragic is basically like Jrue Holiday last year: a solid all around pg with very few flaws who's having a great year. I will agree he's a very smart player and he should be in his 7th year.

But everyone saying Dragic > Wall and even CURRY is crazy

What's the element that seperates Lillard from Dragic? I've seen Dragic take over games and look unstoppable, both with the J, and driving ability.He's above average on defense, to

51% shooting to 43% is a huge discrepancy.

On top of that, being selected to play in the All Star game is mostly based on politics.

Neither Jrue nor Lillard(Even last years Jrue) are anywhere near as efficient as Dragic.That's what makes him better as of right now.All Star level pg shooting over 50%? With a mid range game? top 3 in the league at getting into the lane/ lay up efficiency? but at the same time, can knock down the 3 at over a 40% clip?.. that's some underrated shyt.

These other dudes are just bigger names, not bigger games.I think most people are in denial about how good Dragic really is

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

So Kendall Marshall is a better 3pt shooter than Klay Thompson right?

Another false equivalency

 

[Eternal Tecate]

See this is funny because you guys base your evaluations of players on 100% conjecture with nothing to back it up, but if I try to bring stats into the equation you'll all just discredit and ignore the stats. fukk the coli

 

[Bledswole]

Another false equivalency

No sir

Kendall Marshall has shot 200 less threes than Thompson but has a higher percentage, same exact scenario between Dragic and Westbrook on layups last year.

So who's the better 3pt shooter?