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by wanting women with fairer skin and "good" hair and porn star asse, we do. Or at the very least contribute.

"Contribute" I can agree with - but ultimately that is not our say.

no, I mentioned black women several times. You just read what you wanted to read and "pretended" to think I meant something else.

and I fixed the second line for you, but thats nonsense. We make more than black women on average despite black women having more degrees.

In sports, we pay top dollar to see black athletes and dont do it for black women. The same is true in rap music.

You sleep with 100 women, you are a player. A woman sleeps with 100 dudes, and she is a hoe.

Black women were some of the biggest organizers during the Civil Rights movement, and are now for the Black Lives Matter movement, yet you only hear or see the men.

And there are more examples.

Its not arguable at all unless you can't see the privilege you have. Thats what privilege entails.

You didn't mention Black men having privilege as only over Black women, though.

And as for your examples here, "privileges" is situational, it's not about averages.


cool, so you are equating violence against women to being seen as a suspect at Target?

No -

i'm equating the idea that there may be violence against a women with
the idea that there may be violence against a man.


But you don't think any man should have to worry about that.

FFS, most of you didnt believe Bill Cosby was a rapist until like 30 women showed up and said he raped them and a few dropped the, "well she should not have been alone with him," line. Thats privilege.

Is it really?

It's "privilege" to think that someone (no matter who) should be seen as innocent until they are proven guilty of something like rape?
 

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"Contribute" I can agree with - but ultimately that is not our say.
So white power structure likes big bubble butts en mass? :dwillhuh:

But lets go with this. If we contribute to it, then are we not using our privilege over black women, since black women cannot contribute to it?

You didn't mention Black men having privilege as only over Black women, though.
I mentioned it several times including talking about going out at night. I was very clear, so it is not my issue. its yours.

And as for your examples here, "privileges" is situational, it's not about averages.
Privilege is all about situations. You are being silly now. Its why we use situations like job applications to show it.

And on average black men make more money than black women even though black women get college degrees at a greater rate than black men.



No -

i'm equating the idea that there may be violence against a women with
the idea that there may be violence against a man.


But you don't think any man should have to worry about that.]
no, you equated being a suspect in a store to violence against black women.

And dont forget black women also get the suspect in the store treatment.

It's "privilege" to think that someone (no matter who) should be seen as innocent until they are proven guilty of something like rape?
of course not

the problem comes when you think the woman is lying and you attack her without knowing the facts. That is what is called privilege.
 

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So white power structure likes big bubble butts en mass? :dwillhuh:

Oh - so now the white power structure matters to you in this convo?
It's not just Black men vs. Black women now? lol


sidebar: the way things are going now, they just might.

But lets go with this. If we contribute to it, then are we not using our privilege over black women, since black women cannot contribute to it?

No, because our "contributions" are sidethoughts.
What makes you think Black women can't contribute to it??



And on average black men make more money than black women even though black women get college degrees at a greater rate than black men.

...and there are other reasons why this may be, it's not just because of gender.

no, you equated being a suspect in a store to violence against black women.

No - because NO VIOLENCE HAS TAKEN PLACE. LOL

Son, you were talkin' about POTENTIAL violence as a threat.
What we have here is ACTUAL situation that happened.


And dont forget black women also get the suspect in the store treatment.

I never said they didn't...however, how often do they get this treatment from other Black people?

of course not

the problem comes when you think the woman is lying and you attack her without knowing the facts. That is what is called privilege.

But it's okay to attack the man without knowing the facts. Okay mayne.
 

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Oh - so now the white power structure matters to you in this convo?
It's not just Black men vs. Black women now? lol
fam, you being dense. You the one who interjected with the "ultimately its not our say." Who else could you be talking about?

No, because our "contributions" are sidethoughts.
What makes you think Black women can't contribute to it??
you not making sense now.


...and there are other reasons why this may be, it's not just because of gender.
what are the other reasons?

No - because NO VIOLENCE HAS TAKEN PLACE. LOL

Son, you were talkin' about POTENTIAL violence as a threat.
What we have here is ACTUAL situation that happened.
its not potential, its what has happened to black women. Thats what you are missing. I didnt create the threat black women have against them out of thin air, there are many examples.


I never said they didn't...however, how often do they get this treatment from other Black people?
How often do black men get this treatment from black people? Neither of us can answer these two questions unless we do an empirical study on it.

But it's okay to attack the man without knowing the facts. Okay mayne.
No creh, I never said that.

But to extrapolate, this happens to black people when crime is done to them by police officers (who happen to be white). Thats white privilege.

When a black women calls about domestic violence done to her by her (black) husband, especially a high profile (black) man, the immediate reaction is to defend dude. Especially on this board.
 
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fam, you being dense. You the one who interjected with the "ultimately its not our say." Who else could you be talking about?

Black women!
They don't get any say in how they're "defined"? Get out of here.


what are the other reasons?

Off top, a major one is the type of jobs they might take.
There are some jobs that get paid more than others.
Another is negotiating pay.


But even with these, that does make it impossible for women to be paid more than men anyway.

its not potential, its what has happened to black women.

Dog, IN YOUR SITUATION, IT IS PONTENTIAL BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED. LMAO

You gave a hypothetical situation of the thought process BEFORE such a thing may happen,
nothing had happened yet.


Which brings us to this...

Thats what you are missing. I didnt create the threat black women have against them out of thin air, there are many examples.

I'm not "missing" that. What YOU are missing is that:

1. Such "threats" are not exclusive to (Black) women
2. Black men do not get shielded from these threats just because they are men.


That's my whole issue with you (and this poem) on this.

How often do black men get this treatment from black people? Neither of us can answer these two questions unless we do an empirical study on it.

How often is happens is not my concern. My concern is that it does happen.
My concern with you is that it seems like you believe "Black men don't have to worry about" this kind of thing.


No creh, I never said that.

But to extrapolate, this happens to black people when crime is done to them by police officers (who happen to be white). Thats white privilege.

When a black women calls about domestic violence done to her by her (black) husband, especially a high profile (black) man, the immediate reaction is to defend dude. Especially on this board.

I can't think of any example where this has happened, but that isn't my point anyway - so i'll let you tell it.
 

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Black women!
They don't get any say in how they're "defined"? Get out of here.
do black men get a say in how they are defined? do Asians? Latinos?

Off top, a major one is the type of jobs they might take.
There are some jobs that get paid more than others.
Another is negotiating pay.
Even in the same fields, black women earn less than men.

Glassdoor did a survey on this last year, men still earned more than women.
The Gender Pay Gap Revealed in Tech; Glassdoor Report | Glassdoor Blog


But even with these, that does make it impossible for women to be paid more than men anyway.
explain

Dog, IN YOUR SITUATION, IT IS PONTENTIAL BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED. LMAO

You gave a hypothetical situation of the thought process BEFORE such a thing may happen,
nothing had happened yet.
no creh, it has happened. its happened many times to black women. They just arent on this board to tell their story.

I'm not "missing" that. What YOU are missing is that:

1. Such "threats" are not exclusive to (Black) women
2. Black men do not get shielded from these threats just because they are men.
so black men are threatened with domestic violence and sexual violence on the same level as black women?

How often is happens is not my concern. My concern is that it does happen.
My concern with you is that it seems like you believe "Black men don't have to worry about" this kind of thing.
putting words in my mouth. I never, ever said that and I dont think that.


I can't think of any example where this has happened, but that isn't my point anyway - so i'll let you tell it.
ffs, the Bill Cosby situation I just talked about. The threads on here that defended dude and shytted on the women until the number got massive.
 

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do black men get a say in how they are defined? do Asians? Latinos?

Yes sir - we do!
And they do!


It just that people can do whatever they want with it...

Even in the same fields, black women earn less than men.

Glassdoor did a survey on this last year, men still earned more than women.
The Gender Pay Gap Revealed in Tech; Glassdoor Report | Glassdoor Blog

I'm not talking about one field - i'm talking about ALL fields.


I could give examples but they would be anecdotal and you don't care about that.
You don't care about if it happens, you care about averages.


no creh, it has happened. its happened many times to black women. They just arent on this board to tell their story.

You can't be this clueless...It's happened many times to Black men also.
But where it didn't happen is in hypotheticals. lol


so black men are threatened with domestic violence and sexual violence on the same level as black women?

Could be.

putting words in my mouth. I never, ever said that

BULLCHIT nicca - you told me specifically in the other thread that I don't have to worry about what a Black woman has
to worry about when I go out at night. You said that chit. Fucc out of here.


ffs, the Bill Cosby situation I just talked about. The threads on here that defended dude and shytted on the women until the number got massive.

That doesn't fit the criteria you asked about, because Bill Cosby wasn't married to any of them and didn't "domestically abuse" them.
 

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I worked at Walmart before and loss prevention really does do that metal gear crouching shyt


I went to HS with a guy who works/worked there. I saw him there about a year ago. We were choppin it up for aa minute, then I guess he saw somebody stealing something. He did the
tiger-woods.jpg
motion mid sentence and took off.

About 5 minutes later, I see dude stalking somebody crouching like Blanka behind some clothes.

Last time I talked to that dude or shopped at Walmart:staceyhmm:
 
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