Gotdamn… Amerie just ethered the US and the entire western civilization.

[Kuro]

Yes recent events has made it clear that so called civilized people support the uncivilized barbarism of using violence and the threat of violence to steal from others. But in the system of white supremacy only white people can get away with that.

 

[DonRe]

We can't critique America, now?
Pointing out the issues doesn't automatically mean someone doesn't want to live here. This country can't improve if every person that is critical of it leaves.

Dont tell them that. Because they stopped working on themselves at 13. They dont strive to get better. Laughed at school teachers and professors remarks about improving. Or even learning. Because they were always great smart ppl.

When your perfect, what can be said about you?

This is the logic that permeates the dialogue. Its less about the merits. More about fighting for laziness.

 

[IIVI]

But Mexico and Switzerland are in the West?

Sort of. It's also a spectrum. Switzerland remains neutral to global issues as does Mexico.

Switzerland especially wants to mind it's own business. Usually you'll see them vote pretty "humanitarian" when it comes to global issues. They're not going to unconditionally ride or die with The U.S, U.K, etc. when it comes to militarily protecting the dollar.

Nobody really tries to mess with them and they don't try to mess with other countries. They've really grown a reputation of mutual respect. It's one of the reasons they have one of the least powerful militaries of any developed country. No reason to mess with them as they're not trying to blow anyone else up. Switzerland to my knowledge doesn't even participate in NATO.

 

[Lootha VanDraws]

whoaaaaaaaaaaa ohhhhhhhhhh

yeaaaaahhhhhh


whooooooooooooooooa ohhhh

They don't know

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

If western powers lack credibility to be talking about human rights then which world power currently has that credibility?
Can you let us know?
No country is perfect but I would rather alight with countries that push for freedom of speech, press, religion etc... than some authoritarian shythole no matter how hypocritical it is. China will laugh at you in the face if you talk about human rights.

Can you focus on what's actually being said without trying to deflect to something else? We're talking about how Western powers project the image of strong values and morality throughout the world and how it's all bullshyt. No one is making a comparison between countries.

How much do they really believe in those values when they're helping to overthrow governments and installing authoritarians who crack down on those beliefs? Or when you're urging governments to censor the press because it's unfavorable to your allies?

Grown azz woman can’t see that fact is embarrassing.

You have all these people that grew up in totalitarian countries and faced oppression trying to migrate to western countries or be apart of western organizations ( NATO/European Union ). Objectively speaking it’s ok to criticize western society, but to act like it’s not better than the alternatives is childish

We also gotta acknowledge how Western powers engage in the kind of regime change that often leads to the installing of authoritarians, theocracies over secularists leaders, and everything in between in these conversations. We can't ignore how they use punitive sanctions to force countries to bend to their will hurting its citizens in the process. All of that contributes to the state of those countries and why people seek to escape from them to the US, etc... It's not always because they see it as a shining beacon, but hopefully to escape the harsh conditions fostered in our wake.

 

[IIVI]

Nothing is unsophisticated about her.
A Georgetown graduate, humanitarian and an avid reader

People aren't used to truly cultured people like her anymore.

Instead, everyone is used to the Barstool Sports fart jokes and "get teh W brO" culture today.

It's a shame. That's what happens when you cut funding to our arts and music programs in favor of STEM.

shyt was an L.

Spoiler: Rant.

Getting more STEM would've been great but it's a net loss because selfish corporations still run the country and do what they want.

That means they'll hire immigrant STEM talent to do the jobs instead because many international STEM school programs now have the same ABET accreditation American universities do, which is a quality curriculum approved by a 3rd party committee. They additionally come here with no student debt and with the same quality of education. Then they'll do it for cheaper.

After cutting all the cultural programs and focusing on STEM we're still not a clear #1:

University Innovation Rankings 2024

www.scimagoir.com

University Research Rankings 2024

www.scimagoir.com

Many international universities now have ABET accreditation standard:

APS

amspub.abet.org

We basically just got wack culturally to be thrown to the side by corporations anyways. They didn't get the clear blowout results they thought it was going to bring as kids are still struggling in school and other problems have emerged.

 

[Will Ross]

Can you focus on what's actually being said without trying to deflect to something else? We're talking about how Western powers project the image of strong values and morality throughout the world and how it's all bullshyt. No one is making a comparison between countries.

How much do they really believe in those values when they're helping to overthrow governments and installing authoritarians who crack down on those beliefs? Or when you're urging governments to censor the press because it's unfavorable to your allies?



This ignores how Western powers engage in the kind of regime change that often leads to the installing of authoritarians, theocracies over secularists leaders, and everything in between. It ignores how they use punitive sanctions to force countries to bend to their will hurting its citizens in the process. All of that contributes to the state of those countries and why people seek to escape from them to the US, etc... It's not always because they see it as a shining beacon, but hopefully to escape the harsh conditions fostered in our wake.

She the typical educated liberal that talks shyt about the west.

 

[Rick Fox at UNC]

Nothing is unsophisticated about her.
A Georgetown graduate, humanitarian and an avid reader

Actually, I wasn't going to get into it, but I'm on a flight to Hong Kong, I've got some time.

I called exactly this in my previous reply. Written like someone who just watched a Noam Chomsky video and read a Franz Fanon quote or two (never actually finished Wretched of the Earth or Black Skin, White Mask).

That she went to an overpriced university doesn't surprise me. I'm sure she studied comparative lit. or similar. Probably wrote a paper on how "the Canon is full of dead white men." Maybe talked about how "Harold Bloom represents everything wrong with literary analysis."

Maybe ran across Amiri Baraka and Ishmael Reed during her formative years. Loves Toni Morrison, doesn't understand or really enjoy her work though. Same goes for Bell Hooks and so forth. Probably used to carry around a copy of the "Encyclopedia of African-American Literature."

I know these people. They all take themselves too seriously and they all kind of suck. I wish it were different, my dream was to fall in love with an east coast black intellectual.

Flight is taking off now.

 

[Wig Twistin Season]

If by American culture you mean theft of property, theft of culture, dishonesty about intentions, elimination of originators/competition, package and sell that culture/labor and profit, then no OP, I don’t think American culture is dead. It’s in overdrive and in its prime phase of Latin assimilation.

The US as a whole is in a weird phase right now.

-Adults want to be kids
-Men want to be women and vise versa
-Black unity is dead
-Criminals and whores have become idols
-Hard work doesnt get you as far as it used to
-Can’t trust institutions vital to our economy
-Women want to be manly, but don’t want the hardship that comes with it
-Kids are disrespectful and lazy
-People get married out of vanity and aren‘t committed
-Etc.

I think the biggest revelation from our current state is we were better off not staying here, but it’s a little too late to fix that now. Our influence is global at this point and our culture has been corporatized, repackaged and misrepresented. Trying to change a system from the inside led to us becoming more like what we once hated.

I’ve NEVER been militant. I personally think if you choose to live in the US and participate in capitalism, yet claim to be militant, your brain is missing a few screws. But that’s just me.



mil·i·tant
/ˈmilətnt/
https://www.google.com/search?clien...2ahUKEwi9mPPombWCAxUYJ0QIHdeDDJMQ3eEDegQIIhAI
adjective

1. combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods.
   "the army are in conflict with militant groups"

Either you see it and accept it, lose everything trying to stay and reject it or move to disconnect from it. This country runs on half truths with just enough there to escape liability.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

These are exact words "The west doesn't actually stand for anything at all. It has no moral center, no true north, no religion......"
This statement would assume there is another civilization that practice these values better than the west. Can she let us know what that is? We need something to compare if American and her allies are these horrible people. Which other country is it?

We have ancient civilizations like the persian and ottoman empire that did a better job of standing on business, it's actually insane how a lot of contemporary societies fall short to the people who they considered "barbaric"

Motherfukkers always complaining about the West when everyone wants to fukking come to the West

Mind you I think (for men) they’re are a couple of countries outside the west better but c’mon.

But for Women? The west is by far the greatest place on earth to be a Women.

Blame imperialism, you bomb their home countries to thy kingdom come and subjugate them then you are surprised when they are forced ot come here to make a living?

you aren't serious about dismantling this system at all

 

[voiture]

We have ancient civilizations like the persian and ottoman empire that did a better job of standing on business, it's actually insane how a lot of contemporary societies fall short to the people who they considered "barbaric"


Blame imperialism, you bomb their home countries to thy kingdom come and subjugate them then you are surprised when they are forced ot come here to make a living?

you aren't serious about dismantling this system at all

The Ottoman empire was the epitome of barbarity. They literally murdered 1 million Armenians in cold blood and they are the examples of morality you want to use?
We should all be glad that evil empire no longer exists. At least the Armenians are.
Never use the Ottoman empire to make a moral argument ever....they are the poster boys for genocide

 

[bdkane]

Truly amazing the amount of sambos on here. Criticizing bullshyt and clear hypocrisy is a bad thing now? The ops have truly taken over.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

The Ottoman empire was the epitome of barbarity. They literally murdered 1 million Armenians in cold blood and they are the examples of morality you want to use?
We should all be glad that evil empire no longer exists. At least the Armenians are.
Never use the Ottoman empire to make a moral argument ever....they are the poster boys for genocide

I might be confusing them for someone else but noticed how you glossed over the persian empire

 

[Low End Derrick]

Sort of. It's also a spectrum. Switzerland remains neutral to global issues as does Mexico.

Switzerland especially wants to mind it's own business. Usually you'll see them vote pretty "humanitarian" when it comes to global issues. They're not going to unconditionally ride or die with The U.S, U.K, etc. when it comes to militarily protecting the dollar.

Nobody really tries to mess with them and they don't try to mess with other countries. They've really grown a reputation of mutual respect. It's one of the reasons they have one of the least powerful militaries of any developed country. No reason to mess with them as they're not trying to blow anyone else up. Switzerland to my knowledge doesn't even participate in NATO.

To me there's no ambiguity about Switzerland's status within the Eastern World/Western World binary; White European, Christian/Catholic, democratic nation that uses languages that has Latin text. It's never been communist, not majority Orthodox/Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist/etc. nor authoritarian, so I don't know how it can be anything other than Western.

And as for it's neutrality on foreign affairs, both Sweden and Ireland are considered neutral, but one would still consider them Western.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Did you tell her the West Bank still has wifi?