Government Shutdown Averted: Trump signs spending bill and declares national emergency

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I don’t see how this ends with us looking good. If that’s his opening offer he’s not gonna budge. That wall is getting some money. Period. And we get some unguaranteed bullshyt for DACA while trump doesn’t ease up on ICE or child separation

Nah...I'm good.

No wall.
 

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You're very short sighted.
Yeah.

I’ve called this shyt for like 4 years on this forum and here we are again.

Illegals strangle democratic policy positions cause we have to handle people who shouldn’t even be here.

For trump to even offer temp DACA status is an L for us. Cause Obama couldn’t even secure this shyt long term.

And in 3 years we will be right back here with dems not even able to discuss some real issue because illegals strangle our ability to focus on shyt Democrats really care about.

Illegals are a passion project in school. They’re electives.

Illegals are not the major core classss you do to graduate.
 

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How many times you gon hold a "special news conference" and say the same damn thing over and over before you realize nobody cares about your fukking vanity project ? :what:

that's the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over expecting different results...


Next time, he needs to sound less desperate. Dude sounded like he was about to break down.
 

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This is where Trump's persona comes into play: people expect Trump to be an a$$hole. That's why he's gotten away with so much foul shyt he's said and done. This would have destroyed any other politician, but Trump is unique in this aspect. Him holding the government hostage won't hurt him that much in the grand scheme of things; Dems not being the grownups in this situation will.
Open the government and then we'll discuss the wall.

Pretty simple message to stay on code about. I don't see how Dems don't look like adults with this stance. The wall and a working government have nothing to do with each other. Also its incentive to use the same tactic again. Also as already stated, his offer isn't legally binding and given the behavior of Trump, I wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him.

As the government remains shutdown, the economy and functions of the government will start to suffer more. It will be Trump who bears the consequences of that, not house Democrats. According to the latest polls, only 29% of the population blame Democrats for the shutdown while Trump along with the GOP are mostly to blame.

You position the narrative as Democrats as being at a disadvantage. Its Trump who will continue to suffer from this.
 

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Trump is gonna get more than $20 for the wall. Period. And our only bargaining chip is people who shouldn’t even in the country.

How y’all see this as a win is a complete loss to me.

From whom?
:childplease:

We have the House and he will be out of THE house in two years. fukk him.
 

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Trying to move goal posts. Mexico and the US directly border one another. Try again troll.



:russ:


I hope more people do immigrate here from the Caribbean and South America too


:umad:

How you defending illegal immigrants and all Triple H mad and you don’t even know where the illegal immigrants are coming from? The Northern half of Mexico is wealthier, more educated, safer. They’re coming from the south. Which is poorer, less educated and more violent. That’s why I said what I said. How else are caravans walking for 20 days if they’re supposedly right at the border genius?
 

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You're very short sighted.

He just angry that Immigration is on offer first and not what he wants. Human nature is interesting.

I used to lurk in Liberal forums in 2016. When Trump became king in realized those views were for lack of a better word - Whitewashed. It was one of the things that drove me to this forum. A wonderful look at life and politics from a black point of view.

Then somewhere along the line you realize some of us are prettier, nastier and more xenophobic than the cacs we criticise. :beli:
 

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How you defending illegal immigrants and all Triple H mad and you don’t even know where the illegal immigrants are coming from? The Northern half of Mexico is wealthier, more educated, safer. They’re coming from the south. Which is poorer, less educated and more violent. That’s why I said what I said. How else are caravans walking for 20 days if they’re supposedly right at the border genius?
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Trump had 2 years to get this wall. 2 years. 2 years. His own party saw what foolishness it was and didn't chase. Now he wants to offer temporary protection for a permanent wall. He's made some concessions on it to his credit but fukk all that. He's scrambling to have some kind of legacy. Any kind.

He stripped DACA protections in the first place. As usual he is not innocent and deserves no easy way out.

Temporary protection......
 
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