Government Shutdown Averted: Trump signs spending bill and declares national emergency

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The targeted attacks on me are pretty sad.

Instead of DEBATING me, there's some notion that you can't even ARGUE something outside of the majority opinion here.

Democrats aren't asking for anything.

Thats my problem here.

Trump offers DACA.

Pelosi offers with border security and nothing else.

So now we're arguing over immigration, basically.

So yeah, this is purely about illegals now. :dahell:
 

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the dems want border security, they just dont want it to be a big retarded literal wall (with transparent parts because "when drugs get thrown over, they land on your head, it's over!")
You're against border security.

So don't act like now that its on the table that you're "for it"

You've been against increased border security for AGES whenever I discuss illegal immigration.

At least stand on your own square and defend your actual position.
 

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But Trump has all the cards.

Time for sleep. fukking pac vs broner fight went way too late .
Dude, are you relying on polls to make YOUR argument now?

To me, Trump has the cards.

Why?

Cause he knew what to offer.

Theres back channel convos happening every minute...and THIS is what he proposes? That means he knew what the democrats wanted back on the table. This didn't come out of nowhere.

And when given the chance to respond? Nancy Pelosi asks for more border security.

Really???

So now we ARE debating immigration just like I said and yall tried to railroad me for talking about it!!!!!
 

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I want to win this, but illegals are an anchor on our necks. We can't have meaningful policy discussions or get past the shutdown because of this. Illegals are starving us of real opportunity chase actual progressive policies. Trump made the shutdown about illegals. In her response, Pelosi made this about immigration. So yes, like I've been saying for the whole day, this is now a shutdown that doesn't even focus on anything that American citizens can discuss sincerely. We're shut down over some illegal kids, not even ALL illegals...just the kids of illegals. And over a program thats inherently temporary!? But I'm wrong for talking about it?

Make Trump think he's winning. Give him the 1 billion. Slow walk any progress on the wall...which is EASY. The generals do it all the time. All the progressive pundits said this was a reasonable outcome. Yall know better than them too?
 

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OK guys.

We've all read the Pelosi statement, right?



So where was I wrong?

What is Pelosi asking for?

100% of her response was about border security and immigration. ...that was it.

So like I said 12-18 hours ago when yall tried to come for my neck, I was proven right.

Democrats have no cards besides standing up for the kids of illegals for a program thats inherently temporary.

Democrats didn't ask for anything I care about.

Democrats didn't use this opportunity to chase anything of real value in my eyes.

This has become a shutdown over illegal immigrants. I said it then, and I'll say it now. We are losing right now.

If you're going to disagree, do so on the merits of my argument. Keep that personal BS to yourselves.
 
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700,000 DACA adults given citizenship in exchange for money for a wall.

That's a good deal.

They wouldnt take that shyt either :mjlol:.

The art of the deal President has no leverage in this.

He is losing and catching hell from both sides. He might as well declare a national emergency and watch the courts call it unconstititional. Cause the Dems aint budging on this, they have no reason too.
 

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They wouldnt take that shyt either :mjlol:.

The art of the deal President has no leverage in this.

He is losing and catching hell from both sides. He might as well declare a national emergency and watch the courts call it unconstititional. Cause the Dems aint budging on this, they have no reason too.
Outside of a shutdown you'd be right.

But ...we're in a shut down and you are wrong.

Trump is going to get some money. The question is how much.
 

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Here's few of trade proposals:

100% total amnesty for all illegals and they gain citizenship with no strings attached. Trump can get another $5B in exchange for a AOC's 70% top marginal rate implemented.

Nominate and confirm Merrick Garland as the next SCOTUS to replace RBG for the wall. The money will be released when Garland is confirmed.
 

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The targeted attacks on me are pretty sad.

Instead of DEBATING me, there's some notion that you can't even ARGUE something outside of the majority opinion here.

Democrats aren't asking for anything.

Thats my problem here.

Trump offers DACA.

Pelosi offers with border security and nothing else.

So now we're arguing over immigration, basically.

So yeah, this is purely about illegals now. :dahell:
There is nothing to debate.

We're not asking for anything because the wall is simply not a point of negotiation.

The new House was elected in and represents an electorate that does not want a wall, especially if it's paid for by their tax dollars.

How is this so difficult for you to comprehend?
 

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OK guys.

We've all read the Pelosi statement, right?



So where was I wrong?

What is Pelosi asking for?

100% of her response was about border security and immigration. ...that was it.

So like I said 12-18 hours ago when yall tried to come for my neck, I was proven right.

Democrats have no cards besides standing up for the kids of illegals for a program thats inherently temporary.

Democrats didn't ask for anything I care about.

Democrats didn't use this opportunity to chase anything of real value in my eyes.

This has become a shutdown over illegal immigrants. I said it then, and I'll say it now. We are losing right now.

If you're going to disagree, do so on the merits of my argument. Keep that personal BS to yourselves.



So you do get it. This isn't a negotiation.

The Democrats weren't asking for anything. They weren't making this about illegals or immigration.

Trump is just negotiating with himself the whole time.
 
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