Graham Hancock......Refuted

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The current paradigm is being demolished, conventional truths revealed to be a shared delusion

Giving the old and stupid a mercy killing is good natured; their reaction to reality being subverted and identity shattered would splinter their weak little hearts in a million piece
 
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The current paradigm is being demolished, conventional truths revealed to be a shared delusion

Giving the old and stupid a mercy killing is good natured; their reaction to reality being subverted and identity shattered would splinter their weak little hearts in a million piece
you dont have to try and sound intelligent while making a point.. one which i agree with..

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Read the books first and then attempt #2 will be different.
 

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The rock formation, while natural, isn't Atlantis. Doesn't even line-up with Plato's fictional description, and there is no evidence indicative of an 'advanced' civilization there.​
It does when there were lakes and rivers flowing through the area with the structure
 

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Guys like Graham Hancock eat good because historians and archaeologists stiff arm anyone who asks questions that threaten the standard historical /pre-historical narrative. I studied archaeology in college and its highly political with tons of gatekeepers. Its the reason why I stopped pursuing it. Not a Graham Hancock fan, but if someone wants to give a hypothesis for a unique question? Why the fuq not. I think guys like Dan Brown and Simcha Jacobovici are bigger grifters, but because they mostly take on biblical based history/archaeology, they get ignored.
 

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I watched his Netflix show because I’m obsessed with pre-history and very ancient history. just about all of humanity’s actual history is just gone and will never be known. Hell ancient Egypt had a society that refused to be forgotten and we still know and embarrassingly little about them on the whole.

that’s why I really love hearing about even older things like golbeki tepe and surrounding sites. Humanity has thrived, achieved, struggled for eons before our known oldest civilizations. That’s interesting as all hell, but then when he lays out his final ideas it’s just like two notches less retarded then ancient aliens. It was some global super society that taught all this shyt to random groups of people and died out:wtf:

we‘re the same people that went to the moon as we were 50,000 years ago. And our predecessors and competing types of humanity were much closer to us intellectually than they are to any other living animals.
 

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Guys like Graham Hancock eat good because historians and archaeologists stiff arm anyone who asks questions that threaten the standard historical /pre-historical narrative.
That's if they have no evidence to support their 'questions'. Hancock's evidence consists of 'ancient non-'White' people were too stupid', and, 'it looks like....therefore it is.'.​
 

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Graham Hancock was influenced heavily by Ignatius Loyola Donnelly and his book:

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Most, if not all ideas of Atlantis stem from this work in some way shape or form. Anyone deep into the New Age Movement would be familiar with this book and recognizes its influence on modern new age & occult philosophy, especially in regards to ideas promoted theosophy.
 

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Graham Hancock was influenced heavily by Ignatius Loyola Donnelly and his book:



Most, if not all ideas of Atlantis stem from this work in some way shape or form. Anyone deep into the New Age Movement would be familiar with this book and recognizes its influence on modern new age & occult philosophy, especially in regards to ideas promoted theosophy.
It didn't exist at all and there is NO proof it was ever anything other than a fictional place, like Narnia. The ONLY reason people think it did exist is because a 19th Century American politician wrote a couple crackpot books about it......

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Ignatius L. Donnelly - Wikipedia

Atlantis: The Antediluvian World - Wikipedia
I agree, but that's the problem. He's twisting science in order to make money, not to garner genuine interest in the subjects. On top of everything else, he's basically regurgitating 19th Century, racist, pseudoscience. That's where ALL that 'Ancient Advanced Civilization' stuff comes from.

Google Ignatius Donnelly.​
 

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That's if they have no evidence to support their 'questions'. Hancock's evidence consists of 'ancient non-'White' people were too stupid', and, 'it looks like....therefore it is.'.​

That's actually not true. How many geologists opinions did it take for the Egyptologist community to even consider the idea that there is water based erosion on the Sphynx? As has been discussed ad nauseum here, the evidence for labelling the ancient Egyptians as being Black is overwhelming, yet its still debated by the establishment. My freshman year Intro to Archaeology prof said, "Ancient Egyptians weren't black by today's definition". That sentiment still exists 30 years later. I am in no way defending Graham Hancock, but just talking about my own personal experience in the field, and how new ideas or hypothesis are received by the community. You are going to struggle to get funding for any Archaeological dig without some peer reviewed paper, and at that point its still all just conjecture. The evidence comes later from the actual dig.
 

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That's actually not true. How many geologists opinions did it take for the Egyptologist community to even consider the idea that there is water based erosion on the Sphynx?
That was one of the first theories and still part of the overarching narrative so your question makes no sense unless you mean when it was proposed by Robert Schoch in order to move the construction back a few thousand years.....



As has been discussed ad nauseum here, the evidence for labelling the ancient Egyptians as being Black is overwhelming, yet its still debated by the establishment.
The evidence thus far (especially DNA) shows that Egyptians were North African.​
My freshman year Intro to Archaeology prof said, "Ancient Egyptians weren't black by today's definition".
Evidence (DNA) thus far shows that to be the case. If more evidence comes, that will change.
 
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That was one of the first theories and still part of the overarching narrative so your question makes no sense unless you mean when it was proposed by Robert Schoch in order to move the construction back a few thousand years.....




The evidence thus far (especially DNA) shows that Egyptians were North African.

Evidence (DNA) thus far shows that to be the case. If more evidence comes, that will change.


You are not arguing against my point. I was an archaeology major when Schoch first presented his theory. Dude was laughed out of the room despite the backing of a geologist at the time. I am not siding with Schoch's or Hancock's loony theories, but arguing that the process from which a hypothesis is tested is limited. Less than 80% of a dig site gets excavated, less than 50% of artifacts recovered are studied, and less than 50% of those artifacts contribute to what is published. Despite what you may think, the study of prehistory is 90% conjecture and 10% physical evidence. Had the archaeological community entertained and openly discussed and debated the theories of guys like Schoch and Hancock, we wouldn't have had Hancock on Joe Rogan's podcast or his Netflix special.
 
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