Grand Puba...why doesn't he make any lists for favorite emcee?

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Grand Puba is a great rapper but the problem his solo albums to me were just OK. By no means bad listens but nothing that stands out.

The other problem is that Brand Nubian did not really fall off with out him.
 

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I didnt say any of that though. One For All is not only a recognized classic but a PERSONAL classic. one of my favorite albums of all time. I am a Brand Nubian fan but even Jamar said himself that they had so much pushback from the labels because of their content. Their topics would never reach mainstream. I am not sure how you got from my post that they didnt have classics. The OP was about Puba and I think this is part of his legacy. At the same time maybe he made some misteps in his solo career but i would have to attribute his lack of mainstream popularity to his subject matter. I also think Treach and Ja Rule are very underrated MC's but it was because of the TYPES of songs they made.
Oh ok. The core hip hop audience then represented a certain number. A good number of classic albums came out in that time period. But only the well marketed acts topped out in terms of sales within that core group.

A good number of rappers followed the 5% NGE in that era, so many of them were saying and promoting a lot of the same content. I maybe misread your first post as saying that Puba was not compromising and Lord J and Sadat X were .

I've heard interviews over the years with Puba and Dante Ross. Brand Nubian was a made up group. Puba was separately shopping Lord J and Derek X demos and put the group together as best shot of getting a deal. I used to see that as the reason why he didn't do promo legwork for the group. Dante who I believe was their A&R said that Puba just didn't have the work ethic to record and promote music. Group or solo.

I've heard unedited and edited version of their group and solo songs, so I don't think content played that much of a role in that era. Again, many of the other groups had controversial lyrics and content, but to the core hop hop audience, none of that was a problem.
That would have been a problem for Hip hop acts that crossed over to mainstream audience, MTV play and pop station airplay.
 
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Interesting career fasho. Main rapper of classic hiphop group that made a classic album. Dropped a couple of good solo albums that weren’t as bangin as “All for one” IMO. 2000 was a good effort though. He had dope lyrics, deliver and style fasho.
 

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Check out the Dante Ross/Mike Eagle podcast..Gave props to Puba & said he could've been a hall of famer but said he was lazy..Puba could DJ,scatch,write rhymes,produce & play piano smh
He also said Jamar was the most professional even back then

Thanks.
Just caught up to that podcast series. Didnt know that they had a full season of Dante interviews. Very informative stuff.
Confirmed and refuted different things that I heard and saw from that era. 2 part episode about BN was great.

One of the things they didnt discuss, was that I think Puba got disillusioned from his first industry run with Masters of Ceremony. I think he might have done everything that was asked of him, and still ended up getting jerked by the label. So, maybe said F it on the second go round
 
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