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538 & OTL arent far behind. this is just the beginning of the trimming. costs havent even started skyrocketing yet, and only going to lose more and more subscribers. espn gonna look a lot different in like 5 years
How do you think it's going to change sports leagues when tv money is no longer available?
 

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Honestly...ESPN is going to the bushes its damn self.

They havent been able to adjust w/ the times.
Youre going to start seeing smaller sports news sources w/ more interesting content.
Damn near everyone sports related I pay attention to complains about how lame ESPN is...its all gossip TMZ type shyt.
Sports fans really dont care about that shyt.
 

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How do you think it's going to change sports leagues when tv money is no longer available?
Who says there won't be TV money? Just because ESPN MAY have to bow out? There's still FOX, NBC, CBS, etc and thats not even considering streaming companies and other companies not in the live sports business yet.
 

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No, ESPN told Simmon he shouldn't be calling Goodell a "Liar" straight up. That's libel. There were plenty of ESPN employees trashing Goodell daily starting with FT, His/Hers and pretty much every woman at the network but Simmons stepped over the line.
What he said was true, which by definition means it wasn't libel. Dude you quoted is absolutely right. ESPN dictated (or tried to, anyway) what he could and couldn't say. Everyone knew when that (suspension) happened that his days were numbered.

And let's be serious, there was no way ESPN would dare suspend a woman for shytting on anyone in that Ray Rice situation. Also, First Take is an island of it's own, and can't be injected in any comparisons. They let Skip get away with saying whatever he wants, and SAS to a point. I guarantee that if Skip said what Simmons did, it woulda been a soundbite played everywhere on the network.
 

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What he said was true, which by definition means it wasn't libel. Dude you quoted is absolutely right. ESPN dictated (or tried to, anyway) what he could and couldn't say. Everyone knew when that (suspension) happened that his days were numbered.

And let's be serious, there was no way ESPN would dare suspend a woman for shytting on anyone in that Ray Rice situation. Also, First Take is an island of it's own, and can't be injected in any comparisons. They let Skip get away with saying whatever he wants, and SAS to a point. I guarantee that if Skip said what Simmons did, it woulda been a soundbite played everywhere on the network.
How do you know it was true? Was it ever proven? Was there some investigation? The story was still pretty fresh when Bill called him a liar. You can add everyone on ATH, PTI, Colin, Bomani, Lebatard, Keith who were daily trashing Goodell.
 
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No, ESPN told Simmon he shouldn't be calling Goodell a "Liar" straight up. That's libel. There were plenty of ESPN employees trashing Goodell daily starting with FT, His/Hers and pretty much every woman at the network but Simmons stepped over the line.

He said "I think he's not being truthful and here's why".. There's a big difference.
 

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He said "I think he's not being truthful and here's why".. There's a big difference.
Come on now...

“Goodell, if he didn’t know what was on that tape, he’s a liar. I’m just saying it. He is lying. If you put him up on a lie detector test, that guy would fail. For all these people to pretend they didn’t know is such [expletive] [expletive]. It really is, it’s such [expletive] [expletive]. For him to go into that press conference and pretend otherwise — I was so insulted.”

ESPN's Bill Simmons calls Roger Goodell a liar in profanity-laced tirade
 

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I'd be absolutely shocked if they axed OTL given the stories they've broken and topics covered over the year. It's more a news discussion show than any of them with the talking heads.

As someone said earlier, as soon as the 2016 election is over, they'll ax 538. Nate Silver was brought on because of Simmons.
 

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No, ESPN told Simmon he shouldn't be calling Goodell a "Liar" straight up. That's libel. There were plenty of ESPN employees trashing Goodell daily starting with FT, His/Hers and pretty much every woman at the network but Simmons stepped over the line.
No ESPN personality has ever called a coach, player, owner or GM a liar in the 40 year history of the company?
 

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Sidenote you a union fan? Haven't saw many black fans but that's whats up. Wonder whats going to happen to the football podcast? That's all I care about

I've been to a couple of games. Gotta support the local side if you want the game to grow here in America.
 

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Basically, all the big names like Stephen A and Skip and the jock analysts that scream at each other are getting paid. All the creative outlets like 30 for 30 and Grantland are getting axed.

I enjoy the creative stuff. All the other programming are for simple minds and there's a lot of them out there :francis:

Majority of ESPN has been garbage since 15 years ago. Only watch out it for actual games and occasional 30 for 30:yeshrug:
 

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Espn should've came to some type of an agreement with Simmons with Grantland to keep it going somehow. That was too good of a site to throw it all away like that
 
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