Grown Men Monday Talk. How to get that Credit score A+ tips

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Today Monday Talk; Tips on how a breh can improve their credit score from :snoop: to :salute:

1. Download Credit Karma on your phone

2. Dispute all charges even if you are guilty. Most of them drop them when you dispute them. For those collectors that will refuse to drop the charges; come to a deal. Drop the case and you receive $50/month from me. You will be surprised. Most will take that. It’s either they take that or nothing.

3. Get a secured credit card from a credit union

4. Always pay off the secured credit card in full

Bring on the tips breh
 

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The quickest and most straightforward way to improve your credit score is to reduced your credit card utilization to less than 8% of your total credit. Add up the credit limits of all of your credit cards and keep your balance below 8%. Because cards have different closing dates, its simpler for most people to only have that <8% balance on one card and leave a 0 balance on the others.

Most other methods require time and mercy of creditors to remove derogatory information. As for the things you can control, utilization is the main thing besides obviously making your payments ontime. The other thing that you can control is inquiries. Do not apply for anything while trying to improve your scores. If you don't already have at least one card, get a secured one and stick to the <8% rule. Wait at least 6 months before applying for something else. Ideally, try to go a year without any credit applications. Inquiries really hurt you when your scores are low plus you're more likely to be denied for new credit with a lot of inquiries.

I have been in the 400s before, but I'm now in the 800s so I know most of all the "tricks" to building a good score. If anyone is serious about rebuilding, you should frequent Home - myFICO® Forums and more specifically: Rebuilding Your Credit - myFICO® Forums

Also let me add this:
As some have said, CreditKarma provides the Vantagescore for Transunion and Equifax. However the majority of lenders only use a FICO score.

There's a general FICO score as well as different FICO scores for different credit product (Auto, Mortgage, Bankcard). Then there are also different versions of each of those (eg: FICO 8 / FICO 9, Bankcard 4 / Bankcard 8, Mortgage 8 / Mortgage 9).

This all applies to each credit reporting agency (CRA) so you more than likely have 3 scores for each type. The scores vary from CRA to CRA because the information that each company has on file can vary depending whom lenders report information to and when information is reported. For example, Transunion is always a week behind Equifax & Experian with payment information so depending on when reports are checked, you can have different scores. Plus some CRAs will also have more inquiries for you than others.

When judging scores, the bottomline is you need to know which CRA the score is for, as well as the score type and version. You don't have a credit score; you have a bunch of credit scores.

You can't directly compare scores without understanding that a Transunion Vantagescore will almost never coincide with an Equifax FICO Bankcard 4 score or an Experian FICO 9 score. This is real apples to oranges here.
 

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If you owe more than 50% of your bill on your card, pay half of it down immediately.

If you're new to the credit game,
  • always keep your debt to 30% of your max
  • always pay on time
  • keep the debt on your card for 8 months and on month 9, pay it all off (they are trying to establish credit history)
  • don't be applying to more than 2 cards in 1 year (it will lower your score)
  • get a secure credit card as soon as possible.
 

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Today Monday Talk; Tips on how a breh can improve their credit score from :snoop: to :salute:

1. Download Credit Karma on your phone

2. Dispute all charges even if you are guilty. Most of them drop them when you dispute them. For those collectors that will refuse to drop the charges; come to a deal. Drop the case and you receive $50/month from me. You will be surprised. Most will take that. It’s either they take that or nothing.

3. Get a secured credit card from a credit union

4. Always pay off the secured credit card in full

Bring on the tips breh

Everyone, please read...

1) I agree with this. Create an free account with a provider that will show your credit history like Credit Karma, Experian or Free Credit Report. The accuracy of the credit scores that free services provide aren't important, nor generally accurate. In your report, it will list all of the activities and any deliquencies that are present, in addition to the holder of the debt and their contact info. Also, some credit card companies(if you have credit cards) like Capital One and Discovery will show you your credit score and report through their website or app.

2)I somewhat disagree with point 2. Only contest if you know that the debt has been paid. Arguing over a debt to be removed, no matter big or small, WILL NOT GET IT REMOVED from your credit report. The days of waiting 7 years to fall off your credit report are OVER! They want their MONEY!!!!

3)You're going to have to organize a way to pay, no matter the amount. Either work OT to pay it off or creative passive income to generate supplemental income.

4)Always pay off the original holder of the debt even if it goes into collections! The original debt holder will be able to get a negative report removed quicker than the third party. Paying a debt collector ensures that you'll have to go through HELL to get it removed from your credit history.

5)Debt consolidation is TRASH, especially is your just going to pay the minimum balance. You're putting yourself deeper in debt!

5)Assuming you finally have all of the delinquencies removed from your credit report, you can now start rebuilding your credit. I'll be honest, the better the income and your bank accounts are, the quicker you'll be able to rebuild your credit. Someone will give you a chance provided you have a decent job that you've held for at least 6-12 months and you have a decent amount of savings. There are 2 ways I'd suggest you rebuild your credit:

  • Obtaining a secure credit card(as already mentioned)
  • Obtaining a car loan(through a credit union; their rates are more favorable than banks, dealerships either won't finance you or will give you a trash car that won't make it out of the lot.
I chose the second method. I needed a new car and I didn't trust credit cards yet, so I went with a loan. I got approved for a $15,000 car loan with a 400 credit score at 7% interest because I went through a credit union, paid off all my delinquencies(which were removed from my credit report) and I had about $5,000 in my savings account. I drove off a Chevrolet lot with a certified pre-owned 2011 Malibu(with keyless start) instead of the trash that everyone else offered me.

6)After 6 months to 1 year(or whenever you feel comfortable), apply for a credit card(if you chose the auto loan method). Apply through your financial institution(bank or credit union) because you're more likely to get approved. Whether your card will be unsecured or secured will depend on your credit activity since obtaining your car loan or secured card. If you made your payments on time, you should be approved for an unsecured credit card or a car loan.

7)Whether secured or unsecured credit cards, pay your balance IN FULL before the due date. NEVER CARRY OVER A BALANCE INTO THE NEXT BILLING CYCLE!!! I agree with the OP.

8)The most important thing.... Having your credit report pulled costs you credit score points/money. The golden rule is 5/24... Five times within a rolling 24 month period. When rebuilding your credit, you'll have to have your credit pulled more often, but limit it to having it pulled no more than 2-3 times per year. Having it pulled too many times will decrease your score and will get you declined faster than having a bad score.

9)The longer your individual credit lines are open and the amount allowed, the better. Don't close an account unless you either know you'll never need it again or the new credit line is superior(like credit cards that have travel benefits). Closing an credit line will drop your score a couple of points.
 

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Credit Karma isn't the best. Your FICO score is what really matter.

Best way to have a 730+ credit score is

1)Don't borrow more than you can pay

2) Pay your bills on time

3)Keep your credit usage below 30%
 

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Its easier to build credit than to maintain it. Your score will go up quick if you follow the tips posted. Use credit for anything possible. Once you get up to the right level and get rewards cards, its gonna help big time. If you don't have a rewards card, I think most are these days, then just focus on using the card wisely. Not good to get into issues with credit cards cuz they'll eat you alive if you let them. I've gone from opening initial $500 credit line cards to having over 15k in debt to having a score in the low 500s to now getting approved to $10k credit line cards and having scores in the 800s or so, depending on what the bureau is. But it takes time and patience. Its a long game, gotta stay focused thru out. If you're young, now is the time to focus on building up your credit cuz it definitely helps. Altho its never too late. Nothing better than knowing you can treat yourself to something nice and not stress about the money at that moment in time. Just have a game plan to pay it off and keep your balances low. Its the holiday season so everyone spending a little extra, just make sure you start the new year right by paying that debt off as quickly as possible and keep the balances low.
 

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Everyone, please read...

1) I agree with this. Create an free account with a provider that will show your credit history like Credit Karma, Experian or Free Credit Report. The accuracy of the credit scores that free services provide aren't important, nor generally accurate. In your report, it will list all of the activities and any deliquencies that are present, in addition to the holder of the debt and their contact info. Also, some credit card companies(if you have credit cards) like Capital One and Discovery will show you your credit score and report through their website or app.

2)I somewhat disagree with point 2. Only contest if you know that the debt has been paid. Arguing over a debt to be removed, no matter big or small, WILL NOT GET IT REMOVED from your credit report. The days of waiting 7 years to fall off your credit report are OVER! They want their MONEY!!!!

3)You're going to have to organize a way to pay, no matter the amount. Either work OT to pay it off or creative passive income to generate supplemental income.

4)Always pay off the original holder of the debt even if it goes into collections! The original debt holder will be able to get a negative report removed quicker than the third party. Paying a debt collector ensures that you'll have to go through HELL to get it removed from your credit history.

5)Debt consolidation is TRASH, especially is your just going to pay the minimum balance. You're putting yourself deeper in debt!

5)Assuming you finally have all of the delinquencies removed from your credit report, you can now start rebuilding your credit. I'll be honest, the better the income and your bank accounts are, the quicker you'll be able to rebuild your credit. Someone will give you a chance provided you have a decent job that you've held for at least 6-12 months and you have a decent amount of savings. There are 2 ways I'd suggest you rebuild your credit:

  • Obtaining a secure credit card(as already mentioned)
  • Obtaining a car loan(through a credit union; their rates are more favorable than banks, dealerships either won't finance you or will give you a trash car that won't make it out of the lot.
I chose the second method. I needed a new car and I didn't trust credit cards yet, so I went with a loan. I got approved for a $15,000 car loan with a 400 credit score at 7% interest because I went through a credit union, paid off all my delinquencies(which were removed from my credit report) and I had about $5,000 in my savings account. I drove off a Chevrolet lot with a certified pre-owned 2011 Malibu(with keyless start) instead of the trash that everyone else offered me.

6)After 6 months to 1 year(or whenever you feel comfortable), apply for a credit card(if you chose the auto loan method). Apply through your financial institution(bank or credit union) because you're more likely to get approved. Whether your card will be unsecured or secured will depend on your credit activity since obtaining your car loan or secured card. If you made your payments on time, you should be approved for an unsecured credit card or a car loan.

7)Whether secured or unsecured credit cards, pay your balance IN FULL before the due date. NEVER CARRY OVER A BALANCE INTO THE NEXT BILLING CYCLE!!! I agree with the OP.

8)The most important thing.... Having your credit report pulled costs you credit score points/money. The golden rule is 5/24... Five times within a rolling 24 month period. When rebuilding your credit, you'll have to have your credit pulled more often, but limit it to having it pulled no more than 2-3 times per year. Having it pulled too many times will decrease your score and will get you declined faster than having a bad score.

9)The longer your individual credit lines are open and the amount allowed, the better. Don't close an account unless you either know you'll never need it again or the new credit line is superior(like credit cards that have travel benefits). Closing an credit line will drop your score a couple of points.

Breh. You're giving a lot of slightly bad advice in here. Specifically points 1,2,4,5

1) Credit Karma is cool for people with decent to good credit . But if you're serious about fixing you need to see what people who pull your report actually see. And need to know exactly where you are at. Not with a fake CreditKarma score (FAKO) and half assed tradelines. But the real deal. To do that subscribe to MyFico. You'll get the real deal score and reports that most creditors pull and see. No guesstimations needed. You'll also get the name and contact info of all your debt holders. Credit Karma hides that shyt sometimes or its incomplete. Forcing/enticing you to pay them for a full report.

2) Contest EVERYTHING. PERIOD. Send debt validation letters to all of them. It's the debt holders responsibility to prove that you owe the debt. You'd be surprised by how many can't after the debt has been sold a few times. This is usually a slam dunk with cell phone providers who can never find the signed contract. These are the rules. Play by them.

4) This is not true. ALWAYS confirm a 'Pay for Delete' BEFORE making any payment. GET IT IN WRITING. Whoever is reporting the negative tradeline on your credit report will have the ability to remove it (3rd party or original). Some will. Some won't. Some take convincing.

It's super easy for them. All they have to is literally contact the credit reporting agencies and have them remove the tradeline. That's it. But it usually comes down to policy of that particular company or the deal they made with the original creditor. Usually if you just Google the name of the debt collector along with "Pay for Delete" you can tell which are willing to play ball and which aren't.

If you were dumb enough to pay off the debt without getting a pay for delete in writing you can pretty much forget about that idea. Your next step should be to send a Goodwill letter or email and ask nicely.

Also 9 times out of 10 the original creditor will just point you to the new debt holder anyway and will refuse to accept payment from you. But it's always good to ask both and see if any will put in writing that they will delete BEFORE payment. So again, it doesn't matter who you pay...just get them to agree prior that they'll remove it with payment.

5) Debt consolidation isn't trash. It's just that most services are trash. Debt consolidation stops late payments and fees from stacking up. Also in a lot of cases companies that buy debt want payment in full or a partial settlement lump sum payment that most people can't afford. Debt consolidation will pay that off for you. Allowing you to get things under control. Paying a minimum on one debt consolidation loan is better than not paying at all because you can't afford it.

The key is going with a reputable company. OR going to a credit union and establishing a relationship with them. Especially one attached to a workers union. Go there and open up a small savings account and talk to someone.

7) it's very important to understand that paying in full is for your own good to make sure you don't get in over your head. NOT for the health of your credit. your credit score is representative of your credit usage. if you have no usage being posted to your tradelines than you have no credit. as 99% of credit card companies report 1 time a month. not rolling. So the key is keeping whatever posts to your report to around 10% of total credit limit. Then pay to avoid interest AFTER it's posted.

you could also figure out when your credit card company reports balance (another reason to get myfico) and pay after that. never carry a balance and never let more than 10% of your credit limit post.

Of course the rules are changing everyday. My wife has a nearly perfect 820 and hasn't had a balance post in years.

8) that's not the golden rule. The 5/24 thing is LITERALLY Chase's rule. They made it up. Mostly because they wanted to stop churners aka bonus chasers. People who are getting rejected because of Chase's 5/24 rule are still getting accepted other places.

The key thing to remember about hard pulls on your credit report is if you're going to go on a card application spree, or a mortgage or car application fee....do it all together within 14 days. Inquiries of the same kind will be grouped and won't effect your score. BIG CAVEAT to this rule though. If your application ever requires a manual review the creditors will see all of those hard pulls on there and may question why you were so desperate for credit.

Also I'll just add that if you have a debt thats close to 7 years old. LET IT BURN. DO NOT USE THE ADVICE IN THIS THREAD ON ANY DEBT CLOSE TO 7 YEARS OLD (Even 5 or 6). BECAUSE It will fall off your report. If you contact the creditors and admit to owing the debt you may restart the clock all over again!!!!
 
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