Haitian American elected officials respond to the abuse at U.S. border

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I see your point, but I'm sure those were the directives given out in meetings before they set out. As a matter of fact in their statement responding to Biden's they said those were the directives they'd been given. It's no different than the directives given for "aggressive policing" in our communities vs other communities. Like I've said, this country has always been very clear on its policy toward Blacks, Black immigrants, and Haitians especially.

Hoping for the international rules to apply to us will always be a fast-track to disappointment and disaster, because it's been shown multiple times they do not. There are international rules against interfering in the politics of other nations, but in this past year alone we've seen the West orchestrate coups in Haiti, Guinea and they're working on Ethiopia.

Was your initial point in this thread that Haitian Americans shouldn't waste time protesting and challenging the treatment?

The poster I responded to asked a question about what constituted abuse, and I gave my take. Seeing that it happened in Texas, my mention of war time rules was deliberate.

Even Nazi prisoners of war in Texas were shocked at how black people were treated in the South

In World War 2...... enemy combatants aka Nazi prisoners of War were treated better in a Texas military station than African AMERICAN soldiers who were on the same side of the white Americans.

The Spike Lee film . Miracle Santa Anna, showed a brief scene depicting this


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Were the African American servicemen and local residents supposed to not note and protest /challenge their mistreatment in that time and place? Even worse than enemy combatants?
Were AA elected officials and leaders supposed to do nothing about it?

Hope and disappointment don't deter Black people from advocating for themselves. Or from directly calling out the hypocrisies in the system. Win, lose, or draw.......gotta fight back.

*Will look for the statement from border patrol, but seems as though it's done to cop pleas and hide behind "we were following orders". All law enforcement officers are trained to assess situations, and have leeway in terms of how they handle situations. Trampling kids and brandishing ropes like whips is how they chose to handle the situation, and should be held accountable for those decisions.

 

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Was your initial point in this thread that Haitian Americans shouldn't waste time protesting and challenging the treatment?

The poster I responded to asked a question about what constituted abuse, and I gave my take. Seeing that it happened in Texas, my mention of war time rules was deliberate.


Were the African American servicemen and local residents supposed to not note and protest /challenge their mistreatment in that time and place? Even worse than enemy combatants?
Were AA elected officials and leaders supposed to do nothing about it?

Hope and disappointment don't deter Black people from advocating for themselves. Or from directly calling out the hypocrisies in the system. Win, lose, or draw.......gotta fight back.

*Will look for the statement from border patrol, but seems as though it's done to cop pleas and hide behind "we were following orders". All law enforcement officers are trained to assess situations, and have leeway in terms of how they handle situations. Trampling kids and brandishing ropes like whips is how they chose to handle the situation, and should be held accountable for those decisions.

I didn’t say we shouldn’t protest, I said protesting was largely a waste of time because in our case it falls on deaf ears and we lack the real power to follow through with anything stronger than words. In the case at the border BLM threatening to have a protest down there led to the fear of a repeat of what we saw over George Floyd probably helped their situation in a way that wouldn’t have happened any other time. A perfect storm of sorts. In any event, I’ll admit I was wrong in this case.

But I wouldn’t count on seeing a repeat of that, especially internationally. Like I said there’s always been laws regarding conduct between nations, and it’s been repeatedly shown those laws do not apply to us. We’re on their verge of our third coup and no amount of protests will stop that.

 

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Spoiler: full article

Tucson police chief will finally get his hearing to head Customs and Border Protection

• Sep 29, 2021

Tucson Police Chief Chris Magnus' nomination by President Biden to head U.S. Customs and Border Protection will finally move forward after being stalled in the Senate for months.

U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden announced Wednesday that he will schedule Magnus' hearing before the Senate Finance Committee he chairs, which oversees the confirmation process for CBP. He did not immediately provide a date.

"If confirmed, Magnus would take charge of security and processing at U.S. borders and ports of entry as the Biden administration manages criticism from the left and right about border policies," the Bloomberg Government news service noted Wednesday.


"CBP was without a Senate-confirmed leader as the Border Patrol, one of its components, was under fire for agents’ treatment of Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas," Bloomberg's report added.

Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, had congratulated Magnus on his nomination in April and said it was clear Customs and Border Protection faces pressing issues. But he held up the hearing because of a dispute with the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees CBP.

The senator wanted DHS to answer questions about the Trump administration's 2020 deployment of hundreds of federal agents to Portland during Black Lives Matter demonstrations. Wyden called the deployment a misuse of federal resources "to stoke violence against peaceful protestors in my hometown."


He said Wednesday he agreed to move forward on Magnus' confirmation after DHS announced it will create a new council to oversee its law enforcement agencies. "DHS is both committed to reviewing its training and engaging with communities of color to hear their concerns,” Wyden added in a news release.

U.S. Sen. Mark Kelly responded: "Border states like Arizona cannot afford any more delays in getting a Senate-confirmed Customs and Border Patrol Commissioner. Having a fully staffed Department of Homeland Security is critical to carrying out the mission of a secure and orderly process at the border, which is why I've been working with my colleagues to move forward with Chief Magnus' confirmation as quickly as possible," the Arizona Democrat said in a written statement Wednesday.


Magnus, Tucson police chief since 2016, has called his nomination “the honor of a lifetime” and "something I’m very excited about.”

He has declined to comment on the confirmation delay, saying he was asked to not discuss the process.

A statement from the White House in April said Magnus has “extensive experience in addressing immigration issues” because of his role as police chief in a “diverse city close to the U.S.-Mexican border."

Biden administration officials also praised Magnus for developing a reputation as a “progressive police leader.”

 

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Mayorkas Meets with Haitian Ambassador to the United States

Mayorkas told the ambassador that the investigation into mistreatment of migrants in Del Rio is ongoing.

September 30, 2021

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Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro N. Mayorkas met with Haitian Ambassador to the United States Bocchit Edmond on Tuesday to discuss our nations’ continued cooperation.

“I appreciated the opportunity to speak directly with Ambassador Edmond about our shared commitment to ensuring that Haitian migrants are treated with dignity and respect,” said Secretary Mayorkas. “I look forward to continuing to work with the government of Haiti and other partners throughout the hemisphere as we work toward safe, orderly, and humane management of migration in the region.”

Secretary Mayorkas thanked the Government of Haiti for supporting the safe return and re-integration of Haitian nationals.  Secretary Mayorkas and Ambassador Edmond agreed that much work remains to be done to address the drivers of migration, and both acknowledged that the displacement of people is a global crisis and needs worldwide attention.

Secretary Mayorkas assured the Ambassador that the dignified and humane treatment of all individuals, regardless of their immigration status, is his top priority. Secretary Mayorkas shared that the investigation into mistreatment of migrants in Del Rio is ongoing.

The Department of Homeland Security continues its engagement with partners in the hemisphere, including Brazil and Chile, to ensure they too are doing their part to offer protection for vulnerable populations and receive individuals who had legal status there.