Hakeem Olajuwan Gives LeBron That ETHER.

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

All this shyt must apply to yourself you idiot clown

Hakeem played in the era WITH Jordan and has his own agendas saying this shyt, how does a fukking clip of Hakeem training Bron disprove anything you dense moron

You are just saying he has an agenda because he said something “bad” about your favorite player. You’re just making that up in your head and ignoring the rest of what he said.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The me liking the Clippers had nothing to do with me hating Bron... I thought they would figure it out and they didn’t. shyt they still probably would’ve if Doc just simply stopped playing Harrell. I was wrong.

It had everything to do with it. You desperately wanted to put your faith in a team that could beat Bron.

And you are literally one of the biggest fukking weirdos on here. You hated on Bron for years now look at you. All because you have this weird fixation of shytting on the past.

I've never hated on Bron; I've always despised his fanbase, just like I do MJ's fanbase.

Funnily enough, I was one of Bron's biggest advocates back on SOHH when he received all the backlash for leaving Cleveland and super-teaming it up in Miami, and defended him when folks were saying he couldn't lead a team to a championship.

You’re even spewing that dumbass 1st round talking point from Twitter.

Just like the dumbass Finals talking point?



There's a moral to the story there.... I'll let you work out what it is.

 

[Karume]

Yeah it does... Again why would anyone pick the less aesthetically pleasing style. This has never been done except in this dumbass debate.

No it doesn't, just because it's a style you would choose doesn't make it inherently better.

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

In this very thread

See I can laugh too...




but

Waiting for a response to my “ self ether”.

 

[Karume]

Waiting for a response to my “ self ether”.

Why would I need to respond to you ethering yourself? That's for you to do.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

It had everything to do with it. You desperately wanted to put your faith in a team that could beat Bron.

I've never hated on Bron; I've always despised his fanbase, just like I do MJ's fanbase.

Funnily enough, I was one of Bron's biggest advocates back on SOHH when he received all the backlash for leaving Cleveland and super-teaming it up in Miami, and defended him when folks were saying he couldn't lead a team to a championship.

Just like the dumbass Finals talking point?



There's a moral to the story there.... I'll let you work out what it is.

K

You have taken multiple 180 turns over the years. Not even sure why I argue with you

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

Why would I need to respond to you ethering yourself? That's for you to do.

Looks like you just self ethered yourself...multiple times, in this very thread.

 

[Karume]

Looks like you just self ethered yourself...multiple times, in this very thread.

You saying something and it being true are often at odds with each other

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

K

You have taken multiple 180 turns over the years. Not even sure why I argue with you

Did it ever cross your mind that you're the one who's spinning around, moving whatever goalposts you can to protect your childhood memories?

 

[Peruvian Connect]

The difference between Jordan and LeBron is the first Warriors title. GS was not great LeBron shyt the bed. Jordan would have killed them in the post.

 

[murksiderock]

Maybe if he joined the Showtime Lakers....If you replace him with Jordan on those Bulls teams from '84-'90, he's not getting passed the

Celtics, or Bad Boy Pistons.Pippen was drafted in '87, but he wasn't some blue chip prospect who hit the ground running.He took like 3 yrs

to develop.Ironically, Bron probably would've jumped ship to the Cavs.Joining forces with Mark Price & Brad Daugherty to put them over the top.

I dont believe this at all. LeBron got thru an era of Detroit Basketball (the 2002-08 Pistons) that was every bit as good as the Pistons Mike ran up against (1986-91 Pistons), and it only took him two cracks at em to beat em---->lost in 7 in '06 and won in 6 in '07. We don't even need to highlight who was around LeBron on those teams...

Conversely, it took Mike four attempts to get thru the Bad Boys. This is an underrated aspect of the Mike vs Bron thing and one that doesn't support Mike as the greater of the two at all. Those 80s Pistons probably never win a title if they have to go thru LeBron instead of Mike, seeing as they beat Mike but lost The Finals in '88; chances are they weren't beating LeBron a second time; the Bad Boys were good but are not regarded as some All-Time team...

This post makes little sense. Once MJ’s team was good enough to get there, he got to the finals consistently and same with Bron. Once Bron put together a team good enough, he got to the finals consistently. Mike went 6-0 and Bron currently 4-6.

You do alot of dancing with the 6-0 thing lol...

•LeBron had a team playing for championships at an earlier stage in his career (Year 4 to an ECF and Finals) compared to Mike's Year 5 to an ECF abd Year 7 to a Finals...

•thru Y9, both had played in three Finals total. One in three straight, one in two straight, and only one needed a vacation from the physical grind and mental dedication required to keep performing at a championship level...

•thru 13 years, LeBron had played in 7 Finals to Mike's 6, again in the same span of career, without a pause button, more frequently putting his team in championship contention than the other guy...

•thru 15 years, after another vacation from the physical grind and mental dedication, Mike was stuck at 6 Finals appearances to Bron's 9. It isnt even debatable that in the same amount of time of career, one guy had his team playing championship level basketball more than the other guy...

.........

I've seen one of your talking points is any team with Mike would be favored in a Finals. Lol sure, if your opponents are Lakers/Blazers/Suns/Sonics/Jazz/Jazz and you play for the dynasty of your era, as compared to not playing for your era's dynasty and having a 6-consecutive Finals streak of SA/SA/GS/GS/GS/GS...

You keep trying to do this thing where opponents don't matter, performance doesn't matter, and spending 11 of your 17 years as one of the Final Four teams playing is inferior to spending 8 of 15 seasons as a Final Four team; Final Four used as a standard of legitimate championship-level team...

And your argument doesn't work because you keep simplifying it to 6-0>4-6 as if there is nothing else in play...

So all those years that MJ or Duncan lost in the earlier rounds, they would have won those series if they had been in the Finals and playing against either the same or an even better team?

If you give Duncan or MJ 4 more Finals trips then they would have 4 more L's on their resume, because none of the teams that they failed to make the Finals with was good enough to win the Finals.

Don't worry, the same squads they had that got swept in the first 3 rounds woulda got swept in the Finals too.

MJ playing with Oakley, Woolridge, and Paxson gets a pass for a 1st-round sweep, but LBJ gets criticized for getting swept in the Finals when his #2 was Boobie Gibson.

Duncan got swept by the Lakers and the Suns in the first two rounds, but y'all think he wouldn't have gotten swept by the Steph-Klay-KD-Dray Warriors?

Dudes can't even make this silly shyt make sense lol, I'm here to give out all this work all offseason though...

 

[fifth column]

I dont believe this at all. LeBron got thru an era of Detroit Basketball (the 2002-08 Pistons) that was every bit as good as the Pistons Mike ran up against (1986-91 Pistons), and it only took him two cracks at em to beat em---->lost in 7 in '06 and won in 6 in '07. We don't even need to highlight who was around LeBron on those teams...

Conversely, it took Mike four attempts to get thru the Bad Boys. This is an underrated aspect of the Mike vs Bron thing and one that doesn't support Mike as the greater of the two at all. Those 80s Pistons probably never win a title if they have to go thru LeBron instead of Mike, seeing as they beat Mike but lost The Finals in '88; chances are they weren't beating LeBron a second time; the Bad Boys were good but are not regarded as some All-Time team...



You do alot of dancing with the 6-0 thing lol...

•LeBron had a team playing for championships at an earlier stage in his career (Year 4 to an ECF and Finals) compared to Mike's Year 5 to an ECF abd Year 7 to a Finals...

•thru Y9, both had played in three Finals total. One in three straight, one in two straight, and only one needed a vacation from the physical grind and mental dedication required to keep performing at a championship level...

•thru 13 years, LeBron had played in 7 Finals to Mike's 6, again in the same span of career, without a pause button, more frequently putting his team in championship contention than the other guy...

•thru 15 years, after another vacation from the physical grind and mental dedication, Mike was stuck at 6 Finals appearances to Bron's 9. It isnt even debatable that in the same amount of time of career, one guy had his team playing championship level basketball more than the other guy...

.........

I've seen one of your talking points is any team with Mike would be favored in a Finals. Lol sure, if your opponents are Lakers/Blazers/Suns/Sonics/Jazz/Jazz and you play for the dynasty of your era, as compared to not playing for your era's dynasty and having a 6-consecutive Finals streak of SA/SA/GS/GS/GS/GS...

You keep trying to do this thing where opponents don't matter, performance doesn't matter, and spending 11 of your 17 years as one of the Final Four teams playing is inferior to spending 8 of 15 seasons as a Final Four team; Final Four used as a standard of legitimate championship-level team...

And your argument doesn't work because you keep simplifying it to 6-0>4-6 as if there is nothing else in play...





Dudes can't even make this silly shyt make sense lol, I'm here to give out all this work all offseason though...

I’m trying to be cordial with this MJ v Bron goat debate. The 10 times reaching the finals is not as impressive and doesn’t move the needle. The 4 times that Bron actually won the chip is what moves the needle for his place on the all time list. We don’t hear the media or anyone talking up and praising the runner up in any championship. You dominate when you are able to get there and close. MJ closed when he got there so miss me with the participation achievements.

 

[murksiderock]

The difference between Jordan and LeBron is the first Warriors title. GS was not great LeBron shyt the bed. Jordan would have killed them in the post.

No the difference is the '11 Finals collapse. '15 was an All-Time performance, Jordan isn't winning that series without Kyrie or Love either...

The 4 times that Bron actually won the chip is what moves the needle for his place on the all time list.

Except this part isn't true, there was a portion of The Culture crowning Mike as GOAT with only three rings; LeBron was being viewed as Top 10 after one and entered conversation as the individual greatest ever after three, and he has been seen as greater than most GOATs without equaling or exceeding their ring counts for years...

So I dont need you to be cordial with me lol, just be objective...

I want to win championships, and I want to compete for championships. Only in the minds of Mike Stans are continually competing for championships seen as a drawback because it isnt something that favors Mike...

 

[Osmosis]

didnt say that. but when they get to the finals, they win it. Timmy was a corner 3 away from MJ's record

if u give those guys 10 finals, they getting 7 or 8

but we are supposed to be cool with just getting to the finals, clearly. consolation prizes i see

But they didn't get to 10 finals, they lost in the first, second and third rounds instead. Consolation prizes? You're the one coddling them by claiming it is better to lose earlier in the playoffs than it is in the finals. "B-b-but if they would have made the finals"..

Tim Duncan lost as a 1 seed to an 8th seed but apparently that's better for his legacy than dragging a lottery team to the finals as a 22 year old or losing to a 73 and 9 team that added an MVP. Bron haters are delusional.

 

[Osmosis]

The difference between Jordan and LeBron is the first Warriors title. GS was not great LeBron shyt the bed. Jordan would have killed them in the post.

And that team is still better than most of the opponents Jordan faced in the playoffs/finals.