Happy 80th birthday to professor Richard Dawkins

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  1. Take It In Blood

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    Respect to the Teacha


    :salute:


     
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    I visited his grave about a year ago.
    Respect.
     
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    He's very overrated by the general public. He doesn't have much in terms of a scientific record.
     
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    I don't understand this post, I guess you're expecting scientist to discover or create something new in order to obtain praise and appreciation.

    He's a great teacher and opened alot of minds and exposed them to the scientific perspective through his books in the same vien Carl Sagan and now Neil Degrease has.

    But from a philosophical perspective, he helped make atheism more acceptable to the general public. (which is also probably what he's most famous for)

    So in that sense he's not overrated at all IMO
     
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    Sure, I get what you are saying.

    I should have worded my post differently. My main complaint is that the average person on the street thinks Dawkins is a leading scientist. He's not.
     
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    fair enough



    but while we're on the topic, u know average people on the street who know who Dawkins is?

    :ohhh:


    My homie thinks Dawkins and Darwin are the same person


    and only knows him as being a random cac thats a threat to christianity


    didn't even care enough to correct him, no point in ruining our NBA 2K friendship over that shyt


    just shoot the ball nikka

    :mjlol:
     
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    The thing is that one of his biggest claims is that the scientific method reigns supreme over any other source of knowledge. And he plays off his credentials as a "scientist" who forms his opinions via scientific method.

    Yet I literally can't name a single experimental result of his that has moved the needle on anything. I don't know if he's even published a peer-reviewed paper in the last 30 years. His most famous "scientific" insight is the heavily debated "selfish gene" hypothesis that is more ideological than anything else and was not supported by any follow-up experimentation. And most of his greatest public claims are similarly more about his own ideologies than any actual experimental results.

    He's famous for being an ideologue and opinionated debater, not for actual scientific output. But he is viewed by many as a brilliant scientist. I think that's why @mitter calls him overrated by the general public.

    In that respect he reminds me of Sam Harris, tho Harris is much much worse as he basically paid for a PhD so he could claim to be a neuroscientist without ever doing any legitimate science at all.
     
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    Too much of this is true. :russ:

    But Dawkins is legit popular. The God Delusion sold 3 million copies which is insane for a nonfiction book. That's some serious public cred. On the other hand, actual scientists are decidedly less favorable to him.

    British scientists really, really dislike Richard Dawkins, new study discover
     
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