Hard Work Is A Fucing Scam Smh

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If you are working smart, how can the work be hard?

Bruh, your preaching to the choir, but to sit here and say "you never need to work hard if you work smart"

Is a little bit far fetched to me. It only tells half the story. Working smart is working efficiently in my eyes. Meaning, you do work, but you do it the easiest way possible, inorder to maximize your output, while minimizing your input.



Case and point: I did EE in school, my first circuit class, I had to drop out because it was my first time and it was hard and I just didn't know what to expect. I thought I was doing every thing right by working all the problems in the book.

Second time around I got in the "inner circle" off EE students who had all the old tests, quizzes , and a general knowledge of the teacher. They put me on to game and I did office hours to show the prof I was "working hard" all the while networking with the "inner circle" to get my hands on as much study material as possible. Turns out that most of the tests stayed the same through out the years, with slight number changes at best, and a curve ball here and there.

At the end of the day, I still had to work hard, and study, but by networking and getting with like minds, the hard wrk became a little easier and I was able to pass the class. They where able to point me into how and what I should study.

You always want to avoid doing uneccesary things that don't lead to a direct outcome. Take as many short cuts as possible. There's no avoiding "hard work" (all the time) in my opinion but I definitely feel you can streamline shyt to where hard work becomes less hard over time. Maybe even easy depending on what it is.

at least, that's how I view it. You should never be "working hard" as in "killing your self for no reason" You should always strive to put in as minimal work as possible and get the greatest return. It's the natural rule of business, buy low and sell high.

If that work just happens to be hard then so be it, at least you're doing it as efficiently as possible.

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ok, lets try to turn this into something productive. You get a chance to advise every poster here, 3 pieces of career advice. Not cliches, not powerquotes, nothing bubblegum, just your own words from your own experience, what do you tell them?

1.
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3.

In an attempt to avoid every fukking discussion turning into a pissing contest between two posters (i think I'm too late), let's see if I can answer this.

1. Get shyt done. This sounds simple, but you'd be amazed how many people in the working world talk around shyt without accomplishing anything. There's a saying -- "baffle em with bullshyt." Don't do this. It's stupid, and you aren't fooling anyone.

2. Someone probably knows how to do, or has already done, something you've been assigned. Find that person. Build the network. Know where to go for answers, then piece them together to solve problems. You can still avoid politics and keep to yourself ... but, without a network, you're spending time re-inventing the wheel (sorry for the cliche). This has two benefits -- within your immediate group, you become seen as a person with the answers, and it makes you visible to other departments (or other companies, depending on your business).

3. Be known for something. At every job I've had, I've been "the writer." People levels above me have always come to me for writing advice ... and, now, there aren't many levels left above me. You probably possess some indispensable skill -- find it and use it. It's amazing how many people can get management jobs, but can't write ... or speak publicly ... or facilitate discussions, or whatever. Whatever the skill is, it's probably easy for you, and very difficult for other people. Those people will remember you.

(as you can tell, I don't work for myself ... but I started at the entry level, and now I can basically decide to either go run a division, or hang around to take my boss' place. Or, just chill out comfortably until I feel like doing something else.)
 

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heres thing thing, "Work hard" is a cliche, WTF is working hard? How can something be deemed hard work if I am good at it thus can do it with little to no effort?
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Work hard is a cliche but work smart is perfectly normal is it? Alright breh
 

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In an attempt to avoid every fukking discussion turning into a pissing contest between two posters (i think I'm too late), let's see if I can answer this.

1. Get shyt done. This sounds simple, but you'd be amazed how many people in the working world talk around shyt without accomplishing anything. There's a saying -- "baffle em with bullshyt." Don't do this. It's stupid, and you aren't fooling anyone.

2. Someone probably knows how to do, or has already done, something you've been assigned. Find that person. Build the network. Know where to go for answers, then piece them together to solve problems. You can still avoid politics and keep to yourself ... but, without a network, you're spending time re-inventing the wheel (sorry for the cliche). This has two benefits -- within your immediate group, you become seen as a person with the answers, and it makes you visible to other departments (or other companies, depending on your business).

3. Be known for something. At every job I've had, I've been "the writer." People levels above me have always come to me for writing advice ... and, now, there aren't many levels left above me. You probably possess some indispensable skill -- find it and use it. It's amazing how many people can get management jobs, but can't write ... or speak publicly ... or facilitate discussions, or whatever. Whatever the skill is, it's probably easy for you, and very difficult for other people. Those people will remember you.

(as you can tell, I don't work for myself ... but I started at the entry level, and now I can basically decide to either go run a division, or hang around to take my boss' place. Or, just chill out comfortably until I feel like doing something else.)
Thats more like it. Hope youre reading this cashmere fakkit. Even your name sounds wild homo :mjlol:
 

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In an attempt to avoid every fukking discussion turning into a pissing contest between two posters (i think I'm too late), let's see if I can answer this.

1. Get shyt done. This sounds simple, but you'd be amazed how many people in the working world talk around shyt without accomplishing anything. There's a saying -- "baffle em with bullshyt." Don't do this. It's stupid, and you aren't fooling anyone.

2. Someone probably knows how to do, or has already done, something you've been assigned. Find that person. Build the network. Know where to go for answers, then piece them together to solve problems. You can still avoid politics and keep to yourself ... but, without a network, you're spending time re-inventing the wheel (sorry for the cliche). This has two benefits -- within your immediate group, you become seen as a person with the answers, and it makes you visible to other departments (or other companies, depending on your business).

3. Be known for something. At every job I've had, I've been "the writer." People levels above me have always come to me for writing advice ... and, now, there aren't many levels left above me. You probably possess some indispensable skill -- find it and use it. It's amazing how many people can get management jobs, but can't write ... or speak publicly ... or facilitate discussions, or whatever. Whatever the skill is, it's probably easy for you, and very difficult for other people. Those people will remember you.

(as you can tell, I don't work for myself ... but I started at the entry level, and now I can basically decide to either go run a division, or hang around to take my boss' place. Or, just chill out comfortably until I feel like doing something else.)

Now see this is good advice, number 3 especially. A lot of people subscribe to the adage that its not what you know its who you know. I look at it as its who knows you and what you can do, and you articulated that perfectly. I'm often in that same situation myself, a lot of my peers come to me when they need a presentation reviewed, a report, or anything of that nature because I've shown writing as a strength and a willingness to help whenever I can.
 

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Bruh, your preaching to the choir, but to sit here and say "you never need to work hard if you work smart"

Is a little bit far fetched to me. It only tells half the story. Working smart is working efficiently in my eyes. Meaning, you do work, but you do it the easiest way possible, inorder to maximize your output, while minimizing your input.



Case and point: I did EE in school, my first circuit class, I had to drop out because it was my first time and it was hard and I just didn't know what to expect. I thought I was doing every thing right by working all the problems in the book.

Second time around I got in the "inner circle" off EE students who had all the old tests, quizzes , and a general knowledge of the teacher. They put me on to game and I did office hours to show the prof I was "working hard" all the while networking with the "inner circle" to get my hands on as much study material as possible. Turns out that most of the tests stayed the same through out the years, with slight number changes at best, and a curve ball here and there.

At the end of the day, I still had to work hard, and study, but by networking and getting with like minds, the hard wrk became a little easier and I was able to pass the class. They where able to point me into how and what I should study.

You always want to avoid doing uneccesary things that don't lead to a direct outcome. Take as many short cuts as possible. There's no avoiding "hard work" (all the time) in my opinion but I definitely feel you can streamline shyt to where hard work becomes less hard over time. Maybe even easy depending on what it is.

at least, that's how I view it. You should never be "working hard" as in "killing your self for no reason" You should always strive to put in as minimal work as possible and get the greatest return. It's the natural rule of business, buy low and sell high.

If that work just happens to be hard then so be it, at least you're doing it as efficiently as possible.

-DMP-

What makes something "hard"? Whats hard for you may not be hard for me, so if me and you do the same thing and you felt you worked hard, can you discredit me saying I dont think what I did was hard? All because you "worked hard" to do something doesn't mean that is the way or only way to do something. If I go to college, go to med school, and become a doctor, do my job for 20 yrs and become a millionaire and say "This was easy", YOU may think I worked hard, but I could think other wise. Paying dues ie.Time in a position is not necessarily working hard if your time in the role was a cake walk for you. Putting in 20 yrs at a company struggling is "working hard", putting in 20 yrs and not being stressed is doing your job.
 

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Thats more like it. Hope youre reading this cashmere fakkit. Even your name sounds wild homo :mjlol:

why I need to read it when you and others are the ones seeking advice?
:heh:

Thats like me asking for driving lessons but I already have license and been driving for over a decade and haven't had any issues.
 

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Work smarter brehs.
I just lost a job and haven't left the couch in two weeks. Just raised my hourly and I'm getting back to work.
 

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I`m a clown because you feel working smart is dumb, makes sense. I can make the soup but I can't force you to eat it. Thats on you if you want to work hard, I have 4 or 5 pages in this thread discussing working smarts and its benefits, and you come in towards the end wanting to discredit it, lol thats your problem. The people who are pressed to convince someone working hard is the only way and every thing else is BS are the people working inefficiently and want to convince themselves more so than others that they are doing the right thing.
Breh no beef whats with all the projecting.

I might be late but all i see is @Primetime21 trying to have a serious discussion and he did invite you to share your thoughts and you proceeded to clown him and use all kind of smileys and shyt.

This is a grown man discussion.

I whole heartedly believe in working smart over working hard. I'm in corporate sales, make 125k which in Toronto for a black man is pretty damn good , work 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, literally make my own hours. I worked 100x as hard in my previous gig as a Project Manager for a little less pay.

I still think i have a ways to go before I can sit there and :blessed: @ my methods but I'm doing okay so far. I'm definitely hungry for much more.
 

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why I need to read it when you and others are the ones seeking advice?
:heh:

Thats like me asking for driving lessons but I already have license and been driving for over a decade and haven't had any issues.

You and I were going back and forth doing nothing constructive so I tried to turn it into a positive conversation, you didnt want that. If you always rely on only what you already know how are you ever going to learn anything new?
 

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You must be stupid.

forefather

noun fore·fa·ther \-ˌfä-thər\
: a person who was in your family in past times

: a person from an earlier time who helped to create or start something modern or important

You're forefathers handwork made white people rich, the blacks who were able to build wealth from their work did it by working smart and out thinking others.
 

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You and I were going back and forth doing nothing constructive so I tried to turn it into a positive conversation, you didnt want that. If you always rely on only what you already know how are you ever going to learn anything new?

What is working hard? Being at a company for 20 yrs? Going to College? Getting As? What makes that hard if the task was not difficult? Putting in Work does not equal Working Hard. The issue with this thread is those who dont work smart dont understand the ideology of working smart thus think working smart = slacking and coasting.
 
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