Hardcore Holly Shoots on the Kliq

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R=G said:
Nah, man. It was because they sucked and wasn't bringing in business. You gotta understand something..when people talk about Bret and Shawn, the New Generation, they like to harp on about their performance because THEY KNOW they didn't bring in any real money. They didn't do it. Lex didn't do it. Nash didn't do it. Taker didn't do it. Sid didn't do it. Then Hogan turned heel and that flipped everything upside down for WCW and they started running away and everyone was watching them for nearly a solid two year flip.

It's nice a guy like the Underaker is cheered so hard these days as a legend and for good WM matches but he didn't save Monday Night Raw like Austin and Rock did. That's why someone always has to take it with a grain of salt. It's just the way it was meant to be historically.
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makes sense tbh
 
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R=G said:
Not only but it's filed at WM shows over and over and over again. Even shows where they didn't work together like WM 14 when those fists had to be taped and big nose and homo looking nyggas via San Antonio was forced to lean all the fukking way back.
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Your hate for the kilq is disgusting. It's all a work no need to insult them this way . Respect the talent and leave the insults out, I would never belittle the Rock , I respect what he brings to the table just like I respect the Goat of kliq, HBK is a supreme talent.
 
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Francis White said:
Your hate for the kilq is disgusting. It's all a work no need to insult them this way . Respect the talent and leave the insults out, I would never belittle the Rock , I respect what he brings to the table just like I respect the Goat of kliq, HBK is a supreme talent.
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It's all a work. No. Them fukking cats over left and right and killing off WCW? That's not a work. Cripple H being replaced by Cena because he couldn't cut it is not a work. Michaeles being a hack top draw and being replaced by Austin is on the record. The Kliq is all hype and has meant nothing of value when it mattered. That's why they aren't used to sell any major DVDs or anything of that sort.

Anyone who insults the Rock is a idiot anyway. Where would Monday Night Raw and pro wrestling be without the Rock? It would of fell off and been eaten alive. Because Cripple H and Foley wouldn't have cut it. They never could cut it on their own.
 
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R=G said:
It's all a work. No. Them fukking cats over left and right and killing off WCW? That's not a work. Cripple H being replaced by Cena because he couldn't cut it is not a work. Michaeles being a hack top draw and being replaced by Austin is on the record. The Kliq is all hype and has meant nothing of value when it mattered. That's why they aren't used to sell any major DVDs or anything of that sort.

Anyone who insults the Rock is a idiot anyway. Where would Monday Night Raw and pro wrestling be without the Rock? It would of fell off and been eaten alive. Because Cripple H and Foley wouldn't have cut it. They never could cut it on their own.
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Hack champ? HBK was never a hack man, Austin replaced him because he hurt his back, if he never got hurt, you know he would never be a mid carder, he would have in HHH place fighting Foley and your hero in the main event scene. The Rock and Austin would not headline 3 manias if he never got hurt, again no insult to you because I'm being respectful and not insulting the wrestlers or you but HBK was far from a hack.
 
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No. Austin replaced him because he was making money and wasn't getting booed out for Sid Vicious like Michaels' was. Michaels was gonna lose his top spot no matter what because he wasn't drawing. He would of been upper midcard or feuding with DX post a rematch or two with Austin. The Rock was on a roar and nothing was gonna stop a guy who was talking like that on a international level. They had to put Vince with him to keep him getting some heat even after he fukked over Austin and Foley. Michaels could not interfere with that process. He tried to when he kept coming back and hating on the Rock but the crowd no sold him every single time and basically laughed him like he was old played out relic.
 
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Francis White said:
Hack champ? HBK was never a hack man, Austin replaced him because he hurt his back, if he never got hurt, you know he would never be a mid carder, he would have in HHH place fighting Foley and your hero in the main event scene. The Rock and Austin would not headline 3 manias if he never got hurt, again no insult to you because I'm being respectful and not insulting the wrestlers or you but HBK was far from a hack.
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Just stop, breh. He doesn't understand objective arguing and rationalization. That man done masturbated what's left of his common sense a long time ago. It's all stanning and autism from here on out.
 
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what does he mean they never ate when nash was the champ? wwe was struggling?
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WWE did their worst business ever with Nash as world champion.

Not all his fault, he really never had any viable contenders for his title and WWE was at their lowest point creatively, but still.
 
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That don't matter because he was crushed by the NwO and damn sure wasn't the answer since they kept flopping the title around in 1997.
 
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R=G said:
No. Austin replaced him because he was making money and wasn't getting booed out for Sid Vicious like Michaels' was. Michaels was gonna lose his top spot no matter what because he wasn't drawing. He would of been upper midcard or feuding with DX post a rematch or two with Austin. The Rock was on a roar and nothing was gonna stop a guy who was talking like that on a international level. They had to put Vince with him to keep him getting some heat even after he fukked over Austin and Foley. Michaels could not interfere with that process. He tried to when he kept coming back and hating on the Rock but the crowd no sold him every single time and basically laughed him like he was old played out relic.
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I see on the topic of wrestling you are a terrorist and can't be dealt with . You have no objectivity at all on this subject, I give up.
 
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