Harvard profits off of private prisons

[Garjxen]

@DEAD7 - *reads your post*........ https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#56a97ef2251c

Uhhhh, yea, if you haven't noticed....most wealthy people have international investments so they work together to influence policies globally to their benefit....how widespread it is is only a sign of how big the problem is....not how well received....we're not talking about something like medicine, but something like cancer....cancer isn't going to be popular if 7/10 people have it....it only becomes common....so in theory what is common is not necessarily what is good....

The situation we find ourselves in is just the end result of something that happened - just like how a man murdering his brother, or a priest molesting a child is an occurrence....but for something to be is not a sign it should sustain....the murderer can be killed, the priest can be imprisoned....we can react to this....this way of life is finite and judgement will make itself known....

Your strategy is something I see time and time again in foolish people....it's easier to craft a lie than to defend a truth....it's easier to give into sin than to seek righteousness....truth and justice are narrow things, they are focused....a truth of something just is, but a lie about it can be a great many things [a dog is an animal vs a dog breathes in water, a dog can fly, a dog can drive a car, a dog can make a pizza....etc, etc....]

You just want to spout some half logical bullshyt and use it as a barrier that somebody has to go through all the trouble of deconstructing....you chose the easy way and the broader path in life, I do not envy you....

 

[the cac mamba]

I mean... if crack is your shyt, and you aren’t opposed to sucking dikk. fukk it...
Its definitely more sustainable than paying cash, and in theory can prevent your habit from cutting into bill money.

:jaypatr:

 

[Garjxen]

Rather than get into a ‘that’s not a wealth cap/no one actually paid that rate’ debate ill just say ok and be glad no country on the planet currently implements anything of the sort.

........what a tool....

 

[DEAD7]

@DEAD7 - *reads your post*........ https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#56a97ef2251c

Uhhhh, yea, if you haven't noticed....most wealthy people have international investments so they work together to influence policies globally to their benefit....how widespread it is is only a sign of how big the problem is....not how well received....we're not talking about something like medicine, but something like cancer....cancer isn't going to be popular if 7/10 people have it....it only becomes common....so in theory what is common is not necessarily what is good....

The situation we find ourselves in is just the end result of something that happened - just like how a man murdering his brother, or a priest molesting a child is an occurrence....but for something to be is not a sign it should sustain....the murderer can be killed, the priest can be imprisoned....we can react to this....this way of life is finite and judgement will make itself known....

Your strategy is something I see time and time again in foolish people....it's easier to craft a lie than to defend a truth....it's easier to give into sin than to seek righteousness....truth and justice are narrow things, they are focused....a truth of something just is, but a lie about it can be a great many things [a dog is an animal vs a dog breathes in water, a dog can fly, a dog can drive a car, a dog can make a pizza....etc, etc....]

You just want to spout some half logical bullshyt and use it as barrier that somebody has to go through all the trouble of deconstructing....you chose the easy way and the broader path in life, I do not envy you....

A progressive zealot... I haven’t seen one of you in quite some time...
Bezos is the Antichrist right?
...and Apple, google, and Microsoft need to be broken up for the salvation of mankind?

 

[Garjxen]

Bezos is the Antichrist right?

probably not....but I'm sure he'll be ready to make haste and fetch his loafers for him....even put em on his feet....I'd say he'd keep his seat warm, but that would imply he's stupid enough to sit in his master's seat....

 

[Garjxen]

Apple, google, and Microsoft need to be broken up for the salvation of mankind?

Actually...I think monopolies should be legal....an example of what I mean is that we don't need 50 different burger chains randomly spread around [roughly 30 of which wouldn't operate at a high enough level to offer better deals], we need maybe 10 or 20 at most operating nationally....

The overall number of bigger businesses being less would offer greater uniformity and focus, leading to greater efficiency....labor and resources wouldn't get spread thinner to satisfy a more numerous and varied level of operation within the overall grouping [illustration - it's easier for one truck to haul a full load of beef patties from point A to point B only at a set price, than for it to distribute only fractions of it's load to multiple points at different pricing plans]....

It's just more efficient for fewer monopolies to operate, rather than a greater number of businesses operating at varied degrees....really my thinking is medium level companies are the issue and should be absorbed by the largest ones [operating as independently owned subsidiaries that are regulated by their parents]....smaller businesses, mostly local, could be numerous and offer more consumer variety at less affordability....

Besides, the model of multiple businesses competing with each other ultimately does not drive down pricing through competition - as there is commonly strategic collusion between major companies to use similar price ranges to optimize profit margins....in order for the type of model I'm talking about to work it would require [once again] a regulated form of capitalism....an auditing of the big businesses to assess their efficiency [they should be expected to operate at a high level of combined quality and affordability]....and financial assessment of upper class individuals....

Being rich is cool, but wealth is an economic vacuum that harms the circulation and balance of resources....higher class businesses and individuals should face regulations and taxes that identify and repurpose wealth....

 

[GPBear]

Example of this being successfully implemented anywhere? I’d love to read about it.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call an example of “bad faith.”

 

[DEAD7]

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call an example of “bad faith.”

False, I'd genuinely like to review any evidence of this(or something similar) being practiced today on a large scale.




Have liberals turned asking for evidence/examples into a bad faith argument? Never ceases...

 

[Garjxen]

@DEAD7 - You keep talking about it not being practiced....what exactly is your point?

 

[DEAD7]

@DEAD7 - You keep talking about it not being practiced....what exactly is your point?

Its more a jab at the enduring HL "there is no libertarian/free market society, so it must be ass" talking point than an actual argument.


That aside, I'd really like to see evidence supporting its feasibility today on a large scale without evidence its just progressive feel good/sound good babble.

 

[Garjxen]

@DEAD7 - Well if you have nothing to add, then that's all it is....saying that it's lack of use is evidence of it's inability to work....if generosity doesn't get it done, force will....one way or another, it will come to pass....and I'm not really talking about anything global, not initially....realistically a global change is too drastic to be likely....but our country is in a good position to get it done....I love Windows, I love Amazon, I love McDonalds, I love America....but they achieve only a fraction of their potential...

"1 At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts." - Dueteronomy 15:1

 

[GPBear]

Its more a jab at the enduring HL "there is no libertarian/free market society, so it must be ass" talking point than an actual argument.


That aside, I'd really like to see evidence supporting its feasibility today on a large scale without evidence its just progressive feel good/sound good babble.

Why don't you guys have any examples of a maximum salary cap. Sounds like a bunch of progressive empty promises to me.

It's almost like the world is ran by financial capitalists that go out of their way to sanction any society that even remotely resembles socialism

It's not bad faith, I genuinely want you guys to provide examples of successful policies, so I can trivialize and dismiss them, or juelz them off as not really socialist

Freer the market, freer the people to work 3 jobs and still be below the poverty line.


You're not fooling anybody. All you ever do is for the worst aspects of America while trying to shyt on anyone with progressive agendas.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call an example of “bad faith.”

What if Jungle wrote my shyt and I’m really illiterate?

 

[DEAD7]

It's not bad faith, I genuinely want you guys to provide examples of successful policies, so I can trivialize and dismiss them, or juelz them off as not really socialist

Just say you have no evidence... but it sounds like a good idea.
Don't get upset and begin attacking me because im asking for evidence that its feasible for present day America.


Scrutiny, IMO should be welcome in HL discussions, regardless of ideology and/or who is asking.

 

[GPBear]

Just say you have no evidence... but it sounds like a good idea.
Don't get upset and begin attacking me because im asking for evidence that its feasible for present day America.


Scrutiny, IMO should be welcome in HL discussions, regardless of ideology and/or who is asking.

You got your evidence, and you immediately tried to brush it aside. You just go in giant circles.

You do realize that socialism comes after capitalism, right? And that the evidence for socialism is the absolute failure of capitalism. Find me evidence of a capitalist country that wasn't an imperialist, colonizing stain on history. Protip: you won't.

Revolutions start when a small sector of society horde all the wealth they exploited from the workers. America has killed millions of people under the banner of capitalism/westward expansion/manifest destiny, etc. And yet you sit there and act like we need evidence of socialism, when the evidence is primarily the absolute failure of capitalism.


"No, GPBear, Apple hiding $71 Billion in unpaid taxes in offshore accounts is totally fine. And also corporations are people, even though people who don't pay taxes are sent to prison for years. "

Asking for evidence of successful socialist countries (other than, y'know Scandanavia) during a period of late capitalism, already shows a vast misunderstanding of how socioeconomic historical processes work.
Stop beating around the bush, it's not that fukking complicated. Capitalism is some social darwinistic bs. The ONLY way an individual can make large amounts of wealth is by exploiting the labor of others. These CEOs with hundred million dollar bank accounts did not produce 100,000,000 dollars worth of labor. They exploited others who did, and didn't compensate them fairly. It's inherent in the system that capitalism is exploitative and unjust. The preamble of the Constitution states "We the People, in order to form a more Perfect Union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, and provide a common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

If America is founded on the premise of establishing justice, and capitalism is inherently unjust, then the two are at odds and eventually capitalism will be superseded by other more just economic systems (socialism) where laborers are paid for their work and not just exploited out of capital, until eventually that system will be superseded by the ultimate just system (communism) where everyone is given what is necessary to live and nobody feels the need to compete because all needs are met without competitive and exploitative economics. Not to mention the fact that the preamble basically calls for a socialist state of some sort that "promotes general welfare and secures blessings for posterity" aka, welfare programs and social security. Meanwhile republicans insist that those are un-American, and that we should only spend money on the military "providing a common defense." Which completely ignores the other stated socialistic purposes of why this country was founded in the first place. Providing a common defense is meaningless if we're not doing the other things, and capitalism is the major impediment in accomplishing those other set objectives because it's ingrained a "dog-eat-dog" mentality that makes ideas like "promoting general welfare" and "ensuring blessings of liberty for posterity" sound alien, and "socialism" a dirty word.