technically yes isn't necessarely enough if she only said yes cause she was scared.
but then again, in reality, real victims usually don't get justice cause it's hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
Has a woman ever given you consent?
- Thread starter onelastdeath
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but then again, in reality, real victims usually don't get justice cause it's hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
I record the bytch on my phone giving consent before I pipe.
Gotta stay safe out here, esp if u pawging
Great minds think alike
I legit did this once last year 
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
SirShaktus
All Star
You gotta have them "I didn't rape you, right?" text protocols on deck...
(Note: if you're already friends on facebook, this should be somewhat easier, but it's better with a phone number.)
Keep in mind, the less of a scumbag you are if you have a ONS, the less chance you'll need to do this...
And sometimes, a girl is that vindictive/crazy/etc., that it doesn't truly matter what you do...
So, for God's sake, be safe and choose wisely.
(Note: if you're already friends on facebook, this should be somewhat easier, but it's better with a phone number.)
-After you leave, pull up her contact info and delete her name so it shows her phone number at the top of the screen
-Send her a text along the lines of "Last night was crazy/pretty intense, Huh?"
-Normally, she'll send something positive as a response
-Bring up a specific act y'all did during sex; e.g., "Man, the way your eyes rolled back during *insert sex act here* was so sexy"
-Again, she should respond positively
-Screenshot that convo
-Save it in some form of cloud storage and/or keep your photos behind an app lock program
-Send her a text along the lines of "Last night was crazy/pretty intense, Huh?"
-Normally, she'll send something positive as a response
-Bring up a specific act y'all did during sex; e.g., "Man, the way your eyes rolled back during *insert sex act here* was so sexy"
-Again, she should respond positively
-Screenshot that convo
-Save it in some form of cloud storage and/or keep your photos behind an app lock program
Keep in mind, the less of a scumbag you are if you have a ONS, the less chance you'll need to do this...
And sometimes, a girl is that vindictive/crazy/etc., that it doesn't truly matter what you do...
So, for God's sake, be safe and choose wisely.
CoochieMane
#Wholesomegang
CinnaSlim
Queen of Swords
Just ask her if she wants the D. "You gon let me get sum?" 
Tell her you bout to tear dat p*ssy up and if she replies "ok daddy/ yes daddy" you good. 
This is where dirty talk comes in handy.
Tease her until she begs for it
Tell her you bout to tear dat p*ssy up and if she replies "ok daddy/ yes daddy" you good. This is where dirty talk comes in handy.
Tease her until she begs for it
Maybe you should change it to "verbal consent".
Most people do not ask "Can we have sex" and most people do not give consent by saying "Yes I want to have sex with you". It is strange and for a lot of people (women included), it would "kill the mood". People usually go by body language.
Keep a sign in book for temporary dikk rental on the reading table next to my bed.
Doesn't matter who you are, you could be my girlfriend of three years, I need you to sign and initial on the dotted line, and right today's date.
My future is too promising to get caught up in a ridiculous rape case, even as unlikely as that would possibly be.
Dealing with these Tumblr girls, they'll probably want to experiment with some BDSM nonsense, I'll have to keep a stack of legally binding forms next to my bed just in case.
Doesn't matter who you are, you could be my girlfriend of three years, I need you to sign and initial on the dotted line, and right today's date.
My future is too promising to get caught up in a ridiculous rape case, even as unlikely as that would possibly be.
Dealing with these Tumblr girls, they'll probably want to experiment with some BDSM nonsense, I'll have to keep a stack of legally binding forms next to my bed just in case.
onelastdeath
Banned
I said that on Twitter and I was told "body language is not yes. I don't expect somebody advocating for the rights of rapists to see through a lens of intersectionality"
Nameischosen
Banned
Agressive ones say they want the dikk. The rest of em it is implicit agreement, as in during foreplay she begging for me to put it in.
Let's swerve the convo, I didn't feel like making a entirely new thread I started looking into false rape accusations this particular story is fukking tragic
Woman who accused father of raping her says she lied
New York woman whose testimony at age 9 jailed father for rape now says she lied
Chaneya Kelly says that in 1997, she falsely accused Daryl Kelly, her father, of raping her after pressure and threats from her mother.
(NBC NEWS)
NINA GOLGOWSKI
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Monday, August 19, 2013, 2:35 PM
Nearly 16 years after a New York man was jailed for raping his 9-year-old daughter, that victim has publicly come forward admitting that she lied all along.
Chaneya Kelly, now 24, says the graphic stories she told about her father that sentenced him to 20-to-40 years in prison were never true.
"I'm 24 years old and I made this mistake when I was 9 years old," she told NBC, "but it's never too late to try and right your wrong."
It was October, 1997 when Chaneya says her mother, a former drug abuser and occasional prostitute for drug money, pulled her aside while she was leaving their bathroom in Newburgh.
"She repeatedly asked me, has my dad touched me," recalled Chaneya. "I was like, 'What do you mean, did he touch me?' And she was like, 'Did he touch you in your no-no spot?' And I would repeatedly say no."
Her father, Daryl Kelly, a Navy veteran and married father of five, had been trying to kick a drug habit himself at the time but never harmed her in any way, she'd later say.
But her mother, not hearing what she wanted, became demanding, until allegedly threatening her: "If you don't tell me the answer that I want to hear, I'm going to beat you."
The 9-year-old succumbed to her threats, allowing her mother to call the police and take down her daughter's statements, after allegedly going over exactly what her father had allegedly done to her.
Daryl Kelly, a father of five, is still in jail despite the fact that his daughter said she lied about the horrific accusations against him.
(NBC NEWS)
In a videotape capturing her recantation a few years later, she would admit that she learned words like "penis" and "vagina" from the prosecution team. She learned how sex worked from pornography she found hidden under her parents' bed.
When Daryl Kelly was taken down to the police station on October 29, 1997, police confronted him with accusations of the heinous crime, while falsely claiming to have found his semen on his daughter's clothes and body.
Terrified, he denied having ever touched his daughter and pinned any blame on his wife.
"My wife is doing drugs and alcohol. Maybe she's setting me up," he said, according to the police report obtained by NBC.
Despite a lack of any forensic evidence supporting Chaneya's claims of sexual abuse, a jury found that her story, which matched her mother's, was enough to convict him.
Not only was he sentenced to 20-to-40 years in prison but he was barred from having any contact with his children as well.
Adding to the 9-year-old's trauma, she was removed from her mother's custody by authorities, citing her drug abuse.
A few years later Chaneya admitted what she had done to her grandmother who recorded her recant, seen here, but it was determined to appear 'coerced,' according to a judge.
(NBC NEWS)
It took long years of guilt to eventually drive Chaneya forward, admitting what she had done to her grandmother, who videotaped her recant.
Her mother, having sobered up over the years, signed an affidavit admitting to having threatened her daughter to lie as well.
Today, Charade Kelly says she doesn't know why she made her daughter lie about her father.
"I have no idea, I really don't," she told NBC.
She instead blames it on a three-day drug binge. "I was really deep in the grip of my addiction," she said.
The mother and daughter's testimony weren't enough for a judge, however, who said the statements offered seemed "coerced" and denied overturning his conviction.
Since then Daryl Kelly has filed multiple appeals that have been denied.
Her mother Charade, pictured, acknowledges threatening her 9-year-old daughter with a belt if she did not say that her father raped her. She doesn't know why she did it, only blames it on her drug use.
(NBC NEWS)
After Chaneya was permitted to visit her father in prison at the age of 16, she says she's been fortunate enough to renew their relationship after he accepted her apology.
A photo of the daughter's visit to New York's Green Haven Correctional Facility in January shows the pair together, Daryl Kelly holding Chaneya's newborn son, Julian.
Recalling the first time she was able to see him, she says he told her that he still loves her dearly.
"The first thing my dad did was that he hugged me and he told me that he loved me and … that he doesn't blame me for anything," Chaneya recalled. "It was priceless to me."
State prosecutors are said to be currently reviewing his case.
Daryl Kelly says that even if he serves out his sentence he won't be vindicated unless cleared of wrong-doing.
"It's not just for me," he told NBC, "It's for my daughter as well."
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I assumed the article being made in 2013 that a simple google would lead me to find he had been released . . . it only gets sadder . .
Woman who accused father of raping her says she lied
New York woman whose testimony at age 9 jailed father for rape now says she lied
Chaneya Kelly says that in 1997, she falsely accused Daryl Kelly, her father, of raping her after pressure and threats from her mother.
(NBC NEWS)
NINA GOLGOWSKI
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Monday, August 19, 2013, 2:35 PM
Nearly 16 years after a New York man was jailed for raping his 9-year-old daughter, that victim has publicly come forward admitting that she lied all along.
Chaneya Kelly, now 24, says the graphic stories she told about her father that sentenced him to 20-to-40 years in prison were never true.
"I'm 24 years old and I made this mistake when I was 9 years old," she told NBC, "but it's never too late to try and right your wrong."
It was October, 1997 when Chaneya says her mother, a former drug abuser and occasional prostitute for drug money, pulled her aside while she was leaving their bathroom in Newburgh.
"She repeatedly asked me, has my dad touched me," recalled Chaneya. "I was like, 'What do you mean, did he touch me?' And she was like, 'Did he touch you in your no-no spot?' And I would repeatedly say no."
Her father, Daryl Kelly, a Navy veteran and married father of five, had been trying to kick a drug habit himself at the time but never harmed her in any way, she'd later say.
But her mother, not hearing what she wanted, became demanding, until allegedly threatening her: "If you don't tell me the answer that I want to hear, I'm going to beat you."
The 9-year-old succumbed to her threats, allowing her mother to call the police and take down her daughter's statements, after allegedly going over exactly what her father had allegedly done to her.
Daryl Kelly, a father of five, is still in jail despite the fact that his daughter said she lied about the horrific accusations against him.
(NBC NEWS)
In a videotape capturing her recantation a few years later, she would admit that she learned words like "penis" and "vagina" from the prosecution team. She learned how sex worked from pornography she found hidden under her parents' bed.
When Daryl Kelly was taken down to the police station on October 29, 1997, police confronted him with accusations of the heinous crime, while falsely claiming to have found his semen on his daughter's clothes and body.
Terrified, he denied having ever touched his daughter and pinned any blame on his wife.
"My wife is doing drugs and alcohol. Maybe she's setting me up," he said, according to the police report obtained by NBC.
Despite a lack of any forensic evidence supporting Chaneya's claims of sexual abuse, a jury found that her story, which matched her mother's, was enough to convict him.
Not only was he sentenced to 20-to-40 years in prison but he was barred from having any contact with his children as well.
Adding to the 9-year-old's trauma, she was removed from her mother's custody by authorities, citing her drug abuse.
A few years later Chaneya admitted what she had done to her grandmother who recorded her recant, seen here, but it was determined to appear 'coerced,' according to a judge.
(NBC NEWS)
It took long years of guilt to eventually drive Chaneya forward, admitting what she had done to her grandmother, who videotaped her recant.
Her mother, having sobered up over the years, signed an affidavit admitting to having threatened her daughter to lie as well.
Today, Charade Kelly says she doesn't know why she made her daughter lie about her father.
"I have no idea, I really don't," she told NBC.
She instead blames it on a three-day drug binge. "I was really deep in the grip of my addiction," she said.
The mother and daughter's testimony weren't enough for a judge, however, who said the statements offered seemed "coerced" and denied overturning his conviction.
Since then Daryl Kelly has filed multiple appeals that have been denied.
Her mother Charade, pictured, acknowledges threatening her 9-year-old daughter with a belt if she did not say that her father raped her. She doesn't know why she did it, only blames it on her drug use.
(NBC NEWS)
After Chaneya was permitted to visit her father in prison at the age of 16, she says she's been fortunate enough to renew their relationship after he accepted her apology.
A photo of the daughter's visit to New York's Green Haven Correctional Facility in January shows the pair together, Daryl Kelly holding Chaneya's newborn son, Julian.
Recalling the first time she was able to see him, she says he told her that he still loves her dearly.
"The first thing my dad did was that he hugged me and he told me that he loved me and … that he doesn't blame me for anything," Chaneya recalled. "It was priceless to me."
State prosecutors are said to be currently reviewing his case.
Daryl Kelly says that even if he serves out his sentence he won't be vindicated unless cleared of wrong-doing.
"It's not just for me," he told NBC, "It's for my daughter as well."
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I assumed the article being made in 2013 that a simple google would lead me to find he had been released . . . it only gets sadder . .
Did Your Father Touch You?
One month after she spoke with her father on the phone, Chaneya, then 23, wrote a letter on his behalf to Governor Cuomo. His office passed her letter to the attorney general’s office, which forwarded it to Orange County district attorney Francis D. Phillips. Phillips asked the state District Attorneys Association to review her father’s case, and for nearly a year, a team of prosecutors did just that, digging through the old case files and interviewing everyone involved, including twice meeting with Chaneya.
A few weeks ago, Phillips released their 81-page report, “Re-investigation of People v. Daryl Kelly,” signed by ten prosecutors, including five upstate district attorneys. The prosecutors described Chaneya as a “poised, mature, bright, young woman.” But they did not believe her. As they put it, she “can neither explain why she falsely advanced such a horrible allegation, nor why she adhered to it for so long and repeated it to so many different people.” The report described her father as a “pathological liar” and “ego-inflated narcissist” with a “propensity to posture and blather.”
The Orange County district attorney’s conclusion: “We find that Daryl Kelly was not wrongfully convicted.”
Chaneya wasn’t surprised. During her interviews with the prosecutors, she says, she got the feeling they were more interested in protecting her father’s conviction than in listening to her. “There was a point in time in there that I just blew up,” she says. “I got really upset. I was just like: I’m tired of this. I just want you guys to listen to me … I’m telling you that nothing happened. Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that? Absolutely nothing happened.”
Daryl Kelly is now 54 years old and rarely sees his children, most of whom no longer live in New York. Chaneya lives in Baltimore with her boyfriend and their 1-year-old son, and works as an assistant manager of a retail store. Nearly a year has passed since she last visited her father. These days, the person Daryl calls most often is Peter Cross, an attorney working pro bono on his appeal.
Recently he was transferred to Fishkill, a medium-security prison, and when he got to his new bunk, he didn’t put up any photos of his family. “Prison is not my home,” he says.
Instead, he keeps his pictures of his children hidden inside a photo album. Every now and then, when he wants to feel less lonely, he’ll sit down on his bed and study snapshots from all the years he missed: the kids posing in front of their church, Chaneya in her gown at high-school graduation. When he gets to the last page, he slips the album into a plastic bag to protect it from dust, places it back inside his locker, and closes the door.
One month after she spoke with her father on the phone, Chaneya, then 23, wrote a letter on his behalf to Governor Cuomo. His office passed her letter to the attorney general’s office, which forwarded it to Orange County district attorney Francis D. Phillips. Phillips asked the state District Attorneys Association to review her father’s case, and for nearly a year, a team of prosecutors did just that, digging through the old case files and interviewing everyone involved, including twice meeting with Chaneya.
A few weeks ago, Phillips released their 81-page report, “Re-investigation of People v. Daryl Kelly,” signed by ten prosecutors, including five upstate district attorneys. The prosecutors described Chaneya as a “poised, mature, bright, young woman.” But they did not believe her. As they put it, she “can neither explain why she falsely advanced such a horrible allegation, nor why she adhered to it for so long and repeated it to so many different people.” The report described her father as a “pathological liar” and “ego-inflated narcissist” with a “propensity to posture and blather.”
The Orange County district attorney’s conclusion: “We find that Daryl Kelly was not wrongfully convicted.”
Chaneya wasn’t surprised. During her interviews with the prosecutors, she says, she got the feeling they were more interested in protecting her father’s conviction than in listening to her. “There was a point in time in there that I just blew up,” she says. “I got really upset. I was just like: I’m tired of this. I just want you guys to listen to me … I’m telling you that nothing happened. Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that? Absolutely nothing happened.”
Daryl Kelly is now 54 years old and rarely sees his children, most of whom no longer live in New York. Chaneya lives in Baltimore with her boyfriend and their 1-year-old son, and works as an assistant manager of a retail store. Nearly a year has passed since she last visited her father. These days, the person Daryl calls most often is Peter Cross, an attorney working pro bono on his appeal.
Recently he was transferred to Fishkill, a medium-security prison, and when he got to his new bunk, he didn’t put up any photos of his family. “Prison is not my home,” he says.
Instead, he keeps his pictures of his children hidden inside a photo album. Every now and then, when he wants to feel less lonely, he’ll sit down on his bed and study snapshots from all the years he missed: the kids posing in front of their church, Chaneya in her gown at high-school graduation. When he gets to the last page, he slips the album into a plastic bag to protect it from dust, places it back inside his locker, and closes the door.
