Has Andrew Luck lived up to the hype?

[CarltonJunior]

He hasn't lived up to the HYPE but he's still pretty good and a top 10 QB when he's actually out there on the field. He actually needs a lot more help than a lot of the greats before him needed, but the Colts don't seem to understand that and keep building around him like he's Peyton (focusing in on the O-line, not establishing a run game)

 

[malbaker86]

No, but to his defense, he didn't have the weapons around him that other QB's have had.

The swing and misses they've had at RB is

 

[CarltonJunior]

No, but to his defense, he didn't have the weapons around him that other QB's have had.

The swing and misses they've had at RB is

Funny thing is I don't even think you need to have a great RB to have a great run game, you just have to have dedication to it and have a coach/QB that understands situations of when to run and when not to run. The Colts don't want to have a run game because they think Luck can just will them to every win.

 

[Apprentice]

Luck individually has been great

Tom Brady the best QB ever needs a well oiled machine as a franchise to win multiple rings so idk whats being expected of Luck, the Colts live and die by that man

 

[NOSaintsFan02]

You would think Luck was trash from the responses itt

Right? Luck legit may win MVP this year.

 

[L&HH]

Peyton was drafted into a worse team in '98, yet by Year 8, there was no question Peyton was the best quarterback in the NFL...

You keep comparing him to Peyton but the Colts gave him Marvin, Reggie Wayne, Edge, Jeff Saturday, Dallas Clark, Dwight Freeny, Robert Mathis and Tony Dungy as a coach. Who has Andrew Luck played with that's even comparable to these guys other than TY Hilton?

Has Lucked lived up to be the best Qb of all time? No but he's accomplished a lot for what he's been given in fact we could argue he's over accomplished that.

 

[murksiderock]

Luck individually has been great

Tom Brady the best QB ever needs a well oiled machine as a franchise to win multiple rings so idk whats being expected of Luck, the Colts live and die by that man

Tom Brady needed a ton of help when he first started, and he needs alot of help now, but for around the middle 12-13 years of his career, he was The Guy, who could elevate lesser talent around him to championship level...

You keep comparing him to Peyton but the Colts gave him Marvin, Reggie Wayne, Edge, Jeff Saturday, Dallas Clark, Dwight Freeny, Robert Mathis and Tony Dungy as a coach. Who has Andrew Luck played with that's even comparable to these guys other than TY Hilton?

Has Lucked lived up to be he best Qb of all time? No but he's accomplished a lot for what he's been given in fac we could argue he's over accomplished that.

Don't do that, he also had Reggie Wayne still playing at a Pro Bowl level his first two years, and Jack Doyle. And you guys act like he was getting crushed his entire career, the only years he was really playing behind a porous offensive line was 2012, 2015, and 2016. Let's also not pretend that Luck didn't bring alot of harm to his own reputation by taking pointless hits and being a turnover machine with some if the dumbest forced passes ever. He took '17 off, so I'll grant you half of his career----->so in the other half of his career where he wasn't getting crushed, why hasn't he been the transcendent, Peyton-esque guy we were told he would be?

I'm comparing him to Peyton because he plays for the Colts and both came in with hella buzz, and the Colts basically told us all that he was gonna grow to be as good as Peyton, by letting Peyton walk, and then Peyton went on to go to two more Super Bowls...

I'm not holding Luck to an accountability I wouldn't give anyone else who had this level of expectation, so don't try to make this a Luck pity party lol. Peyton hadn't yet made it to a Super Bowl at this age either, so I'm not holding Luck to that. But Peyton was running The League from under center by this point in his career. The best you can say about Luck is that he's a borderline, "maybe" Top 5. There was no maybes with Peyton at this age...

The comparisons to Peyton will persist his entire career because of where he plays and the fact he succeeded Peyton, so you may as well get used to it...

 

[murksiderock]

I should also add that there's a guy from Luck's own draft class, Russell Wilson, who has played with even less skill players on the offensive side, and behind an even worse offensive line, who has consistently and annually been better than Luck. I'm not accepting pity for Andrew Luck applications today lmao...

The guy is a really good quarterback. He hasn't met the hype surrounding his name, and he's going into Year 8. At some point it's not just everybody else anymore, and while people hate to hear this, Peyton met the hype in every way by Year 8 with the exception of making the Super Bowl---->he was 3-5 in the playoffs thru Year 7, Luck is 4-4, that's basically the same record. But besides that Peyton was everything they said he'd be and then some...

 

[patscorpio]

He lived up to modern medicine

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Let's be reality, Andrew Luck was drafted into an awful team. He brute forced his way into the playoffs multiple years. I believe he was the most sacked QB in the league since he was drafted (or at least top 3) and sustained a shoulder injury which could have ended his career. If you wanna argue he's brittle ok, but when healthy he has played at an elite level, and its clear as last year proved, if you give him a good O-Line and competent front office and coach, he's a Franchise QB at worst, if you don't want to call him elite.

This is pretty much it. The colts have rarely ever put anything or anyone good on the roster except luck and receivers. They’ve been trying to win without a steady running game since Edgerrin James left after 2005 (along the way, they even spent a first round pick trading for struggle cuts), without a consistent (and usually a horrible one) defense for most of the last 20 years, and their offensive line has been Swiss cheese. You had the stat a bit wrong though. Luck isn’t the most sacked, he’s the most hit, which is even worse. He’s also almost certainly the most pressured too. It should also be noted that when he missed the whole season a few years ago, their quarterbacks who filled in were the most hit in the league too. He was drafted to a team that started the previous season 0-14, and they really for several years hadn’t done much to fix the team’s comical levels of over reliance on Luck, which is the same problem that Manning had too. That super bowl against the bears is really the only big game I can recall since they drafted Manning where the defense and running game dominated.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

You would think Luck was trash from the responses itt

Coliseum hates white quarterbacks People do be talking about Luck like he's trash.

 

[feelosofer]

This is pretty much it. The colts have rarely ever put anything or anyone good on the roster except luck and receivers. They’ve been trying to win without a steady running game since Edgerrin James left after 2005 (along the way, they even spent a first round pick trading for struggle cuts), without a consistent (and usually a horrible one) defense for most of the last 20 years, and their offensive line has been Swiss cheese. You had the stat a bit wrong though. Luck isn’t the most sacked, he’s the most hit, which is even worse. He’s also almost certainly the most pressured too. It should also be noted that when he missed the whole season a few years ago, their quarterbacks who filled in were the most hit in the league too. He was drafted to a team that started the previous season 0-14, and they really for several years hadn’t done much to fix the team’s comical levels of over reliance on Luck, which is the same problem that Manning had too. That super bowl against the bears is really the only big game I can recall since they drafted Manning where the defense and running game dominated.

Thank you for the correction on that sack stat, I just remember watching every Colts game that I could see the man has more or less always been under fire.

 

[HabitualChiller]

I should also add that there's a guy from Luck's own draft class, Russell Wilson, who has played with even less skill players on the offensive side, and behind an even worse offensive line, who has consistently and annually been better than Luck. I'm not accepting pity for Andrew Luck applications today lmao...

The guy is a really good quarterback. He hasn't met the hype surrounding his name, and he's going into Year 8. At some point it's not just everybody else anymore, and while people hate to hear this, Peyton met the hype in every way by Year 8 with the exception of making the Super Bowl---->he was 3-5 in the playoffs thru Year 7, Luck is 4-4, that's basically the same record. But besides that Peyton was everything they said he'd be and then some...

Eh. Russ arguably has had more talent on offense than Luck; plus, he had an elite defense to keep the other team's scoring down, and provide him with great field position by getting takeaways. They were in the top 12 in that department for, like, SIX of his seven seasons in the league!

 

[Spaceman Piff]

nah.. he hasn't lived up to the hype. but only 2018 pat mahomes would've met those types of expectations.

and the hype is really the main thing that people hold against him.. that and he seems kinda dumb to me.. but that's just my opinion

he's had a combo of shyt tier owner, gm, coach, line, etc.. and he's still been relatively successful. he's definitely been in the playoffs way more than he's missed them..

consistently over 4k yards.. led the league in tds.. like what more do you want from a qb?

 

[Lootpack]

You would think Luck was trash from the responses itt

For real, man came off a shoulder injury and put up 39 TDs, falling 2nd only to Mahomes. I recall a certain former Colts QB (I think he wears #18 idk) getting this same type of criticism only to take his game to another level. Happened around the same time as Luck's career too.

I'll be revisiting this thread in a little while.