Has Andrew Luck lived up to the hype?
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murksiderock
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For real, man came off a shoulder injury and put up 39 TDs, falling 2nd only to Mahomes. I recall a certain former Colts QB (I think he wears #18 idk) getting this same type of criticism only to take his game to another level. Happened around the same time as Luck's career too.
I'll be revisiting this thread in a little while.
Manning didn't have this same criticism. After Year 7, the criticism about Manning was that he couldn't win the big game. That was the offseason before 2005. Brady and the Pats had won their third Super Bowl, but if you're old enough to recall (not saying you aren't), it wasn't until 2005, the year after chip #3, that people were talking about Brady as a top QB in any significant manner. And going into Peyton's Year 8, there was no talk that Brady was better than him...
Brady vs Manning began as a storyline in 2005 and lasted the next decade until Manning's retirement, but in the time frame we're talking about, which is Manning at Luck's age, Manning was already a 2x MVP and virtually universally considered the best quarterback in the NFL. The knock on him was could he win a Super Bowl, because he had a losing playoff record, but he dominated regular seasons...
Andrew Luck has never dominated The League or a regular season. Peyton at Year 8 also didn't have the injury history Luck has at Year 8, Peyton didn't have the propensity to turn the ball over at a high clip, etc...
To say Peyton had the same criticisms Luck has would be inaccurate...
PortCityProphet
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It's kinda funny cause has he lived up to the hype? Nah. His hype was basically be the best ever tho and it's hard to live up to that.
murksiderock
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I agree with you guys who have said this, but it's not like nobody has lived up to the hype before. Peyton lived up to the hype, so did Elway, so did Dan The Man. Obviously Luck is far, far from a bad QB, bit I think minimizing it to saying "oh it's hard to live up to that hype", is giving him an easy out...
Most guys don't, but there have been guys before him who have...
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He’s a very good NFL QB with injury problems and a shyt organization .
PortCityProphet
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Did Elway really live up to the hype?
I'm too young to know his career in depth but I know he was a choker and never won in the offs until TD.
And i know it was a different time and different game but his TD/INT ratio in his 1st 7 years is atrocious 120/114:mybama:
Completion % around 55
Compared to Luck 171/83 and 60%
Let’s be honest... Russ inherited the Legion of Boom
Both Russ & Luck can make things happen on the offensive end even with subpar pass protection. Plus, Seattle has been great running the football for the most part during Russ’ tenure there. They’re pretty comparable in terms of offensive production but Russ gets the edge cuz he’s not as volatile
The Devil's Advocate
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Exactly.. Lets not get into this revisionist bullshyt now. I remember quoting articles were writers were saying he was a LOCK HOF after 1 season. nikkas was talking about he was the best prospect EVER. Dudes was like "Man fukk P. Manning and his next 4 years.... We gonna get Luck"
Unless breh had a Patrick Mahommes year..... every year.... he was not gonna live up to that hype. But he's never had ONE season as good as Pat. Like Max said, he's never been the best QB in the league. Ever.
That wasn't what was promised for yearssssssssssssssssssss from damn near every football person walking earth
murksiderock
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So going into the last season of the 2010s, with 7, soon to be 8 years in the books, Andrew Luck is easily not a Top 5 QB of this era. Is he even a Top 10 QB of the '10s? I can give you eight guys off top who were greater in this era:
Ben, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rivers, Rodgers, Ryan, Wilson...
The last two spots of the Top 10 are going to be arguable for Luck for sure, but he fighting with Romo, Cousins, and Padford. So I'd say Luck is the 9th or 10th best QB of this era, which is underachieving from where they said he'd be...
I'll be right back to respond to the John Elway thing, @portcityplaya !
Ben, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rivers, Rodgers, Ryan, Wilson...
The last two spots of the Top 10 are going to be arguable for Luck for sure, but he fighting with Romo, Cousins, and Padford. So I'd say Luck is the 9th or 10th best QB of this era, which is underachieving from where they said he'd be...
I'll be right back to respond to the John Elway thing, @portcityplaya !
Luck is
I'd put Eli before him with his two SB wins and the last spot for Cam, Foles or Flacco
. Atleast they lead their teams to SB with Flacco and Foles winning one with MVP honors. Luck won't even win the division for Indy this year let alone a playoff game.
murksiderock
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Luck is
I'd put Eli before him with his two SB wins and the last spot for Cam, Foles or Flacco
Whoa lmao...
I gotta slow you down there. I'll never be mistaken for a Luck stan but Eli at no point in time was better than Luck, neither was Flacco...
I can get your angle as far as those guys having reputations as big game QBs, moreso Flacco...
Cam is actually a really interesting comp. I think Luck is better but the results of both guys lined up next to each other would say it's very debatable...