Has anybody ever heard this.......Black people are the real Jews?

[Czar]

See if you 'get' this-

18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.

Lol you thought you were slick leaving out the rest of Obadiah.

Obadiah 1:19-21

People from the Negev will occupy
the mountains of Esau,
and people from the foothills will possess
the land of the Philistines.
They will occupy the fields of Ephraim and Samaria,
and Benjamin will possess Gilead.
This company of Israelite exiles who are in Canaan
will possess the land as far as Zarephath;
the exiles from Jerusalem who are in Sepharad
will possess the towns of the Negev.
Deliverers will go up on Mount Zion
to govern the mountains of Esau.
And the kingdom will be the Lord’s.

Which is what The Hasmonian Dynasty accomplished when it took the land of Idumea/Edom and added it into the Kingdom of Judea.

Now let's read Malachi 1:3-5 in a proper translation that isn't the erroneous and utterly laughable KJV.

1 A prophecy: The word of the Lord to Israel through Malachi.2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord. “But you ask, ‘How have you loved us?’ “Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “Yet I have loved Jacob, 3 but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his hill country into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.” 4 Edom may say, “Though we have been crushed, we will rebuild the ruins.” But this is what the Lord Almighty says: “They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called the Wicked Land, a people always under the wrath of the Lord.

This was also fufilled when Herod the Great overthrew the Hasmonian Dynasty with the help of Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(37_BC)

The Idumeans became the ruling class in Judea... until they were completely wiped out during the Judeo-Roman wars.

 

[Demon]

Im 5 feet 2 inches tall.

most of the world dont take you seriously

 

[Czar]

@LionofJudah

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17

"And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with a garment of fine linen and purple: and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad."

The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour.

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

Thought you said people couldn't become Jews @LionofJudah

But don't run yet, i'm just getting started with this ether I'm giving you.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

?????

 

[Demon]

but I don't address him and he knows why. .

bytch ass nikka

 

[Czar]

And esau?

You know what's ironic? Esau wasn't even white. Neither were his children.

But I'ma hit you with some facts.

1) He was Jacob's twin brother. David, Solomon even Israel were described with the same color as Esau.
2) Europeans came from Japheth, not Esau. Ashkenaz (Germany) and Jovan (Greece) anyone? Nuff said.
3) He had 6 wives. 4 of whom were Hamites (Gen. 26:34, Gen. 36:2-3) 2 were Ishmaelites (Gen. 28:9, 36:2- 3) 3 of whom bore him children. Which woulda made his kin people of color, just like the Hebrews.
4) Edomites became Jews.

 

[Czar]

I wonder if it's any coincidence that when @Czar quotes scripture he gives you the entire passage so you can read the context but when @Disciple of the Projects and @LionofJudah do it's only a small fragment of the actual passage?

This has been very educational, friends.

Lemme expose another false doctrine these dudes use when they twist Isaiah 28:10 outta context.

Contrary to popular belief the bible isnt supposed to be read like a story book. Especially in the New Testament.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; HERE A LITTLE, and THERE A LITTLE

Now let's read the next 3 verses.

Isaiah 28:11-13

For with stammering lips and another tongue
He will speak to this people,
To whom He said, “This is the rest with which
You may cause the weary to rest,”
And, “This is the refreshing”;
Yet they would not hear.

But the word of the Lord was to them,
“Precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little,”
That they might go and fall backward, and be broken And snared and caught.

What they don't realize is Isaiah 28 was dealing with the Hebrew's disobedience (verses 1-8). Who in their drunkenness were mocking the lord's word as being repetitive commands which were to be applied here and there. That same train of thought is what caused them to stumble in verse 13. Yet these dummies think verse 10 was an ordinance of what they should do, which not only exposes their cluelessness, but shows how little Bible study they actually do.

I know you're bold right now because your man is backing you up, but I don't address him and he knows why. YOU are the one claiming you're a Jew, yet you know no scripture, nor can you prove you're a Jew. Posting what material things you have only makes you look like that much more of a fool and is clearly a deflection from the topic at hand.

You won't address me cause you're a coward. Point blank.

You and I BOTH know you can't debunk any of the things i'm presenting, cause they're facts.

So your best defense is to run and play it off. All while praying I don't expose you some more. Cause quite frankly, all your talking points are built upon sand.

 

[LionofJudah]

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

[Czar]

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

1st thessalonians 5:21

Prove all things

Unfortunately for you, you can't prove me wrong cause I'm using facts. You're using Eisegesis.

 

[Czar]

@LionofJudah

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17

"And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with a garment of fine linen and purple: and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad."

The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour.

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

Thought you said people couldn't become Jews @LionofJudah

But don't run yet, i'm just getting started with this ether I'm giving you.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

Still waiting for you to "debunk" this breh...

 

[Czar]

In fact @LionofJudah

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 47:22-23

It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 19:34

"But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17

"And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with a garment of fine linen and purple: and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad."

The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour.

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 19:20-25

"And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

And the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the Lord, and perform it. And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them. In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 3:29-30

"Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 16:1-3

Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:37-38

And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:41-50

And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. 42 It is a night to be much observed unto the Lord for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the Lord to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.

And the Lord said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof:but every man’s servant that is bought for money, when thou hast circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof. A foreigner and an hired servant shall not eat thereof. In one house shall it be eaten; thou shalt not carry forth ought of the flesh abroad out of the house; neither shall ye break a bone thereof. 47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Thus did all the children of Israel; as the Lord commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Chronicles 2:34-36

Now Sheshan had no sons, but daughters. And Sheshan had a servant, an Egyptian, whose name was Jarha. And Sheshan gave his daughter to Jarha his servant to wife; and she bare him Attai. And Attai begat Nathan, and Nathan begat Zabad

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 2:5-10

And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judæa, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes

http://biblehub.com/acts/24-24.htm

Several days later Felix (edit: Roman procurator) came with his wife Drusilla, who was a Jew. He sent for Paul and listened to him as he spoke about faith in Christ Jesus.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 11:25-26

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 17:16-17

While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols. So he reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.

I'ma need you to "debunk" all this too. Lol

 

[Demon]

the sonning

 

[LionofJudah]

the sonning

How can you something you don't believe in be used to 'son' someone else? I guess as long as it's against LionofJudah, you're all for it. Put the pom-poms down cheerleader.

 

[Demon]

I guess as long as it's against LionofJudah, you're all for it.

Basically, because not only are you a fakkit, now i know you a bytch ass nikka

how come you wont respond to him?

 

[LionofJudah]

Basically, because not only are you a fakkit, now i know you a bytch ass nikka

how come you wont respond to him?

He knows why. Why are YOU worried about something you don't believe in? Anything against LionofJudah right? If that's what it is, just say that breh cause right now you're performing for the halftime show with your cheerleading.

 

[Demon]

He knows why. Why are YOU worried about something you don't believe in? Anything against LionofJudah right? If that's what it is, just say that breh cause right now you're performing for the halftime show with your cheerleading.

when did he first son you? link to thread?

cause that shyt must have been for you to completely refuse to debate with him on a message board like a coward