Has Drew Brees ever played with a Pro Bowl WR?

[NOSaintsFan02]

Colston is good enough for me. Not to mention Jimmy. I wouldn't use a "He's had no elite talent" argument.

But the Cards need to go ahead and let us have Fitz

 

[Double J]

This. PPL on this site routinely show how clueless they are. First if all, The term "Pro Bowl" means nothing. The whole idea of the Pro Bowl is a joke, and using that to rate a players ability is asinine. Put up all WRs and TEs for draft, and Jimmy Graham will be one of the first names off the board.

Second of all, in very many cases, QBs make WRs, not the other way around. Sure there's always exceptions (I'm looking at you Calvin Johnson), but there's a perfect case study for this year in Greg Jennings. PPL talk about him being a "weapon" for Rodgers, yet he goes to Minnesota, and has completely disappeared. Did he get worse? Was he THAT much better in Green Bay? No, the guy throwing him the ball got worse. See how that works? Same thing with a Fitz, and look at Andre Johnson this year. Both are always high on the "Best WR in the League" lists, and neither have played like it. Why do you think that is?

Off that same point, elite QBs get more out of guys than average QBs do. Rodgers/Brady/Manning/Brees all elevate WRs to higher levels. Look at all the guys Manning has made "viable" NFL WRs/TEs. Guys leave for greener pastures, and turn into shyt (Deion Branch, the aforementioned Jennings, Hell, former Saint Robert Meachem can fit in here).

So I cringe whenever I hear how a QB has all these "weapons". Like Manning. All them "weapons", and only one was remotely close to being a household name before he got his hands on 'em. Rodgers is always pointed at as being surrounded by weapons, yet he's got 2 practice squad players putting in legitimate time, and one of them is having the kind of year that, pretty soon, he will be one of ARods "many weapons". Same damn thing with Brees. That offense is basically a plug-n-play. Whether you put Dez Bryant or Joe Smith in New Orleans, you know what would happen? He'd be open just as much as Colston or Lance Moore is.

And this is why has never picked a WR in the first round

But still the receivers Brady has this year are

 

[tremonthustler1]

Get Brees some weapons

 

[BigE214]

David Boston

 

[Formerly known as...]

Brees makes his receivers! He doesn't need a pro bowler.

 

[CrimsonTider]

This. PPL on this site routinely show how clueless they are. First if all, The term "Pro Bowl" means nothing. The whole idea of the Pro Bowl is a joke, and using that to rate a players ability is asinine. Put up all WRs and TEs for draft, and Jimmy Graham will be one of the first names off the board.

Second of all, in very many cases, QBs make WRs, not the other way around. Sure there's always exceptions (I'm looking at you Calvin Johnson), but there's a perfect case study for this year in Greg Jennings. PPL talk about him being a "weapon" for Rodgers, yet he goes to Minnesota, and has completely disappeared. Did he get worse? Was he THAT much better in Green Bay? No, the guy throwing him the ball got worse. See how that works? Same thing with a Fitz, and look at Andre Johnson this year. Both are always high on the "Best WR in the League" lists, and neither have played like it. Why do you think that is?

Off that same point, elite QBs get more out of guys than average QBs do. Rodgers/Brady/Manning/Brees all elevate WRs to higher levels. Look at all the guys Manning has made "viable" NFL WRs/TEs. Guys leave for greener pastures, and turn into shyt (Deion Branch, the aforementioned Jennings, Hell, former Saint Robert Meachem can fit in here).

So I cringe whenever I hear how a QB has all these "weapons". Like Manning. All them "weapons", and only one was remotely close to being a household name before he got his hands on 'em. Rodgers is always pointed at as being surrounded by weapons, yet he's got 2 practice squad players putting in legitimate time, and one of them is having the kind of year that, pretty soon, he will be one of ARods "many weapons". Same damn thing with Brees. That offense is basically a plug-n-play. Whether you put Dez Bryant or Joe Smith in New Orleans, you know what would happen? He'd be open just as much as Colston or Lance Moore is.

So when I say the only Positions you need to be elite in the NFL is QB, DE and CB why do I get so much disagreement.

 

[AVXL]

Saints defense was pretty good when they made that SB run though.

That defense was one of the worst of all time. They just got alotta turnovers b/c they blitzed all the time and put illegal bounties on opposing players every game

 

[dunkman6]

That defense was one of the worst of all time. They just got alotta turnovers b/c they blitzed all the time and put illegal bounties on opposing players every game

Sounds like a good defense to me

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

That defense was one of the worst of all time. They just got alotta turnovers b/c they blitzed all the time and put illegal bounties on opposing players every game

I hate you.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

He looks like he's missing Colston so far today.

 

[cfountain]

I hate you.

 

[FaygoMI]

Regardless if you know their names or not, if you watch the Saints play you see them running wide open all day no matter who it is.

It's more Sean Payton IMHO, living down here and seeing this team all the time I'd say its more play design, scouting, and only putting players in situations that are beneficial to the player. Devery Henderson was there how long? did he ever run any route besides a go?

Their offensive also was the best in the NFL for a long time and by having 2 all pro guards it allowed Drew to step up into the pocket and make throws.

Timing based but deeper routes than the Pats.

Drew is still top 5.

 

[FTBS]

But were not talking about TE or RB. It seems like you guys have poor reading comprehension...this thread is about Wide Receiver.

Brees is gonna retire be top 3-5 in every major Passing Category and the best WR he ever had is Marques Colston

You don't think having one of the GOAT RBs and 2 future GOAT TEs helps at all? Not to mention a great system and a bunch of good recievers. Who cares about 8 man fronts and walking mismatches none of his WR made the Pro Bowl.

I respect Brees but lets not act like he wasnt considered replaceable in SD and allowed to walk for nothing in his prime.

 

[Street Knowledge]

That defense was one of the worst of all time. They just got alotta turnovers b/c they blitzed all the time and put illegal bounties on opposing players every game

Their pass defense was excellent though

 

[STAN JONES]

Playing with 2 hall of fame TEs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing with a probowl WR

And lets not act like Colston isnt a probowl caliber WR

Its just hard for him to make it cause of the other WRs in his conference