Has Halo campaign redeemed itself after 5? Reviews are in.

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It’s coming but my guess is that it plays like shyt on the last-gen consoles so they had no choice but to delay it. I cant possibly imagine the campaign running splitscreen on an OG Xbox 1:heh:
I feel like if you can have multiple enemies on screen why can’t you have the extra co-op friend ? It can’t be that big of a deal
 

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Somethin ain't adding up :patrice:


1. the campaign aint out so redactors aint played it.

2. im on the Halo reddit so know what the drama was. users were threatening a 343 employee(Sketch), doxxing people, etc because they were unhappy about the Multiplayer progression system to unlock armors. xp boosts, n fixed playlists. nothin to do with the campaign or reviews. also the reddit was locked before campaign reviews even released. it went back up yesterday tho.
 

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I feel like if you can have multiple enemies on screen why can’t you have the extra co-op friend ? It can’t be that big of a deal
When you do split screen co op, the game essentially has to render twice. play perfect dark on the n64 cop op n watch them fps dip like hell.

its the reason Halo 5 aint have co op cuz they entire games mechanics was built to be at a locked 60 fps no matter what. an increase or decrease in fps would break hit detection n stuff, hence why its never got a Series X boost while MCC did.
 

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I feel like if you can have multiple enemies on screen why can’t you have the extra co-op friend ? It can’t be that big of a deal


For two people to play splitscreen the console has to essentially to run the game twice to account for both players. Even though both players are in the same area interacting with the same enemies, the graphics card has to run both screens fluidly while the CPU is accounting for both players actions and how they influence the game.

You also have to account for players separating and exploring different areas that the game then has to load simultaneously and display on the same screen. What if player one is inside shooting a bunch of enemies while player 2 is outside in a banshee way up in the sky? The Series consoles can probably manage it, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the base current gen consoles make it a near impossible task. I think OG xbox 1 can only play this game at 30 fps as it is:picard: Meanwhile Series X can seamlessly swap between 60 FPS & 120FPS at any time in the menus.

Along with the rise of online gaming, I think this is the reason why splitscreen gaming has somewhat died in the past several years. Most games are doing too much to have a legit split screen experience. The few games that are splitscreen nowadays typically aren’t very graphically taxing, like Borderlands. Gears 5 has splitscreen co-op but those are more linear levels with much less mobility throughout combat. You’re not using the grappling hook to quickly repel 3 stories up and jumping around climbing anything you see in a large open area
 

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For two people to play splitscreen the console has to essentially to run the game twice to account for both players. Even though both players are in the same area interacting with the same enemies, the graphics card has to run both screens fluidly while the CPU is accounting for both players actions and how they influence the game.

You also have to account for players separating and exploring different areas that the game then has to load simultaneously and display on the same screen. What if player one is inside shooting a bunch of enemies while player 2 is outside in a banshee way up in the sky? The Series consoles can probably manage it, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the base current gen consoles make it a near impossible task. I think OG xbox 1 can only play this game at 30 fps as it is:picard: Meanwhile Series X can seamlessly swap between 60 FPS & 120FPS at any time in the menus.

Along with the rise of online gaming, I think this is the reason why splitscreen gaming has somewhat died in the past several years. Most games are doing too much to have a legit split screen experience. The few games that are splitscreen nowadays typically aren’t very graphically taxing, like Borderlands. Gears 5 has splitscreen co-op but those are more linear levels with much less mobility throughout combat. You’re not using the grappling hook to quickly repel 3 stories up and jumping around climbing anything you see in a large open area
It’s gonna be amazing when/if they get it working correctly :banderas:
 

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they shouldn't bother with splitscreen. most people want to play co-op online
 

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I feel like if you can have multiple enemies on screen why can’t you have the extra co-op friend ? It can’t be that big of a deal

I hate to defend xbox but its actually a lot of work to work co-op into single player games. There’s a guy offering modders 10k to make botw co-op

This is what has to happen essentially

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The game only renders Whats in front of the player so if you have two people on screen at once it has to do it twice, which is taxing on resources, and wouldn’t be able to maintain the frame pacing the game has now, especially for open world.
 

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I was just referring to online co-op

but I guess the open world is more taxing than all the other halos before it ???

hasn’t halo had co-op since the first one ?

I’m assuming that with online you would only be rendering the game once on your machine so why would it matter what the other person is doing ..
 

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I was just referring to online co-op

but I guess the open world is more taxing than all the other halos before it ???

hasn’t halo had co-op since the first one ?

I’m assuming that with online you would only be rendering the game once on your machine so why would it matter what the other person is doing ..
1. Halo 5 didn't have co op.

2. My guess would be since the game is both open world + based off of upgrades(valor points) n map pieces unlocked, they had trouble balancing this for 2 players, even online. certain abilities n areas n vehicles are unlocked based off the side shyt you do, unlike other halos where everything is set for each player at the start of each mission. example: player 1 unlocked this part of map n is ready for the 2nd part of that side mission storyline, while player 2 aint done shyt n aint filled the prerequisite for the next part n lacks the same weapon/vehicle upgrades.

^^^^^^^^that aint a fact by the way, just my own personal speculation.
 

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I didn't know reviews were out already. Your metacritic thread makes sense now.


Like I said, very transparent lol
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Is that so?


The funny thing is I was going to make the metric thread yesterday evening when I saw them tweet about it




But I didn't have time and forgot later, it just so happen the Halo reviews dropped this morning. So I posted both threads while I was posting.

But y'all got it:mjlol:
 

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Seems like its getting good reviews but for some reason it has a cult hate following online.


Apparently they were jerkin reviewers





They pretty much prioritized people who were gonna favorably review teh game like windowscentral who got it a month early during the previews
 

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:mjlol:

Is that so?


The funny thing is I was going to make the metric thread yesterday evening when I saw them tweet about it




But I didn't have time and forgot later, it just so happen the Halo reviews dropped this morning. So I posted both threads while I was posting.

But y'all got it:mjlol:

I made a thread on fps metacritic a few months ago. Perfect Dark, Metroid Prime, n Halo:CE were tied for 1st among FPS games.

Best FPS ratings according to Metacritic

now I myself dont use metacritic to determine whether I like a game or not, but I understand a lot of people do.
 
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Personally, I don't take the pre-mass-release reviews with much salt. Happens a bunch here and with movies where the critics will get it wrong, better or worse.
 
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