Has John Wall reached his ceiling?

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Is kyrie 7 years deep in the league with a bad team? I swear by year 4 he had a championship squad.. might just be me..
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Prior to LeBron's return, the talent surrounding Kyrie was A LOT worse. At least Wall had dudes like Gortat, Nene, Ariza and Beal, meanwhile Kyrie was playing with Waiters, Jack, Zeller and Varejao. All we kept hearing was how Kyrie wasn't a winner, how he was a cancer to the team and how he wasn't up there with the best PGs in the league. None of this he needs better talent on the team bullshyt.
 

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How can a player be LUCKY to be in an ISO system? That doesn't make any sense. And no Wall could not average 30 points if he wanted to, he doesn't have the scoring skillset to come close to that. And stop this bullshyt about PGs who chose not to avg a high # of points because they care more about winning than PGs who have a score-first mentality - I've never heard such nonsense in my life.

Yeah because we all know Wall and CP0 care more about winning than Curry. Westbrook and Lillard do. :pachaha:
You could be part of a team that's doesn't
greenlight your ISO :umad:

It's probably why he ain't Eve. Think twice when Miami tried to sign him in FA .. ain't wanna become a off ball PG

Toronto green lighted him..he a good iso guard...not sure it's championship pedigree to be in an iso system
 

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Prior to LeBron's return, the talent surrounding Kyrie was A LOT worse. At least Wall had dudes like Gortat, Nene, Ariza and Beal, meanwhile Kyrie was playing with Waiters, Jack, Zeller and Varejao. All we kept hearing was how Kyrie wasn't a winner, how he was a cancer to the team and how he wasn't up there with the best PGs in the league. None of this he needs better talent on the team bullshyt.
And still.. no one is talking about kyrie being stuck with a bad crew cuz he ain't no more... what we suppose to do? Talk about dude's past situation????
 
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And still.. no one is talking about kyrie being stuck with a bad crew cuz he ain't no more...
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The point is NOBODY was talking about it when he was in a bad situation. He was blamed. Same dudes coppin excuses for Wall weren't doing so for Kyrie. All I'm saying is I ain't trying to hear all that.
 

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You know what, I was thinking about other situations where Wall would thrive and here in Indiana would be perfect.

Bird wants this fast paced offense this year, he could come team up with PG13 and be a contender in the east. He'd fit the system perfect.

We're among the leaders early in points in the paint, Teague isn't shooting for shyt anyways, and the threat of Wall going to the rim opens PG up even more.

Myles and Thad can stretch the floor too and won't clog the paint up.

The only problem is trading for him, but if it was a perfect world and we could keep Myles and Thad Young that would be a great situation for him. :ohhh:
 

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The point is NOBODY was talking about it when he was in a bad situation. He was blamed. Same dudes coppin excuses for Wall weren't doing so for Kyrie. All I'm saying is I ain't trying to hear all that.
And the same dude that was saying we were right when he made the play offs..when he had a decent squad.. they were a good team.. right now his squad is negligible.. are we not suppose to see the pattern because Mr championship Kyrie Irving used to have a bad squad before Lebron took over the team????
 

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Wall isn't the electric scorer that Kyrie and Curry can be.. Wall is really best when he can facilitate teammates well enough to space the floor for his drives. If he could get some talent around him he'd be more appreciated imo.
I'd like to see Wall in a Dantoni offense.

He put up great numbers.
 

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All I gotta say is y'all nikkas betta start putting some RESPECK on Chris Paul name...

nikka is first ballot HOFer
 
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And the same dude that was saying we were right when he made the play offs..when he had a decent squad.. they were a good team.. right now his squad is negligible.. are we not suppose to see the pattern because Mr championship Kyrie Irving used to have a bad squad before Lebron took over the team????
Breh.... can you grab your right hand and slap yourself for me. :francis:
 

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How can a player be LUCKY to be in an ISO system? That doesn't make any sense. And no Wall could not average 30 points if he wanted to, he doesn't have the scoring skillset to come close to that. And stop this bullshyt about PGs who chose not to avg a high # of points because they care more about winning than PGs who have a score-first mentality - I've never heard such nonsense in my life.

Yeah because we all know Wall and CP0 care more about winning than Curry. Westbrook and Lillard do. :pachaha:



btw Wade average 30 with just about the same skillset (of course wade is better)
i never compared his will to win to other players i used it to explain why he plays the way he plays.. he plays his most effective games for W and not an ineffective game for high scoring games.. he wants to win.. not to impress with good looking bad stats
 
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always posting for shock effects and daps..

that transgender posting style :camby:
If there's one thing I don't do it's post for shock effects and daps. I'm telling you to slap yourself because you're blatantly choosing not to see my point.
 

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If there's one thing I don't do it's post for shock effects and daps. I'm telling you to slap yourself because you're blatantly choosing not to see my point.
fukk yeah you do.. and counter arguing your point is not refusing to see you point but having one of my own..

what kind of person thinks their opinion is all that matters?


that's right


wives and girlfriends... stop acting like a hoe.. your got your way of seeing things, i got mine.
 
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