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This I agree with, but I wish he would have said (not that it matters) when asked that question in the original interview that we can't look at 2028 when we have 2026 knocking at our door. Basically "If Gavin wants my vote in 2028, he has to see what is happening in 2026 and adjust accordingly or get left behind."

Not this vote 3rd party shyt. Even in the video provided with him talking to the young guy, he also admits there is no viable 3rd party. If we say that and instead of bullshytting, say Gavin needs to be more like Mamdani or AOC or whomever he prefers, say that! There has to be implied "This is what we want" when you have an audience that big otherwise it's just asking sauce pans to not be a sauce pan when you need a skillet. You find skillets in primaries: don't gas up these people talking about "You have to move to the left", force it by highlighting those already there.

Part of the reason the Democrats were searching for a leftist Rogan is not because they wanted to educate, they want someone who connects to people on a level where there is no depth but you draw them into the tent. They miss the fact that people who are liberal, and definitely left, don't want the same thing as people on the right. Folks like Hassan have an opportunity to get specific and not play into the voter apathy, especially if he tip-toes into bothsides territory.

I can only speak for myself, but the genocide in Gaza by Biden was the last straw of voting for the "lesser of two evils". The only way the Dems will change if they keep losing elections. If we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, the Dems will never change their duplicitous behavior.

In 2028, if they run a Zionist bootlicker despite the base being overwhelmingly against Israel, then they will deserve to lose. Then they will blame the voters despite the voters telling them way ahead of time that support for Israel is a non starter.
 

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the same Hasan Piker that during the election told his audience he was writing in joe biden and didn't care who they voted for

the same Hasan Piker repeatedly wearing MAGA hats like it's a joke.

the same Hasan Piker that said if it came between JD Vance and Newsom, it's the same either way and he'd vote third party.

the same Hasan Piker that told black people that they are "weaponizing their identity" when they speak about how it does matter to them who wins because of racial issues.

The same Hasan Piker that said that Trump would be more malleable on Gaza than Kamala Harris....
 

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Lib shills put him in high regard for his political thoughts. He’s their new destiny p much
nah, dude is the type that will tank the election for dems if he doesn't a get a Zohran Mamdani. He did it during 2024; might as well have been a republican channel.

indirectly helps Trump more than hurts him.
 

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I can only speak for myself, but the genocide in Gaza by Biden was the last straw of voting for the "lesser of two evils". The only way the Dems will change if they keep losing elections. If we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, the Dems will never change their duplicitous behavior.

In 2028, if they run a Zionist bootlicker despite the base being overwhelmingly against Israel, then they will deserve to lose. Then they will blame the voters despite the voters telling them way ahead of time that support for Israel is a non starter.
I respect the thought of standing on one's position, but not the position itself, especially when there was a lot of smoke before the election that Trump was going to take it from "Do what you will but don't make us look too bad" of Biden to literally "Finish the Job" like Trump.

I will say, I am glad AIPAC/covert Israel backed candidates are losing and it seems like there is a political divorce soon, but the absolute alternative has us:

-Killing more people via USAID cuts than the genocide ever did
Under a mild defunding scenario—defined as a continuation of current downward trends—the projected excess deaths would be 9Ā·4 million (95% UI 6Ā·2–12Ā·6) overall and 2Ā·5 million (1Ā·8–3Ā·2) among children younger than 5 years.
-Actively doing to Cuba what Israel does to people it deems enemies, and we are due for boots on the ground at any time.
-Bombing random countries
-Choking the worlds fuel supply through our war games with Iran

There is more, and what makes this all more damning is that none of this was talked about on the still publicly available Project 2025 PDF.
I voted for Kamala knowing that wasn't the end of my voting, but a means to get one man and his cabinet choices out of the paint with far more disastrous consequences. I knew who the enemies were: Schumer and Jeffries. Basically, voting for Kamala as President was a chance to blunt a whole lot more needless atrocities while still voting progressive down-ballot. Dems are NOT losing elections to your point, and using Kamala's loss to illustrate that doesn't tell the whole picture.

Long story short, I don't want to argue about it because I know we agree on a lot, and your not voting for lesser evil is valid, but so many people had that same approach and we are absolutely worse off for it. Corporate Democrats are tanking the party for Israel (and all donors, tbh) but the principled non-vote would be absolutely the right move vs Romney or John McCain. What we risk, especially with things crumbling all around us, is being set back generationally AND more American's saying "I just want something different" which may mean different from Trump and is straight up same old Dem because the alternative is worse. This was one election where that shouldn't have been the line because we, collectively as a voting populace, made the world a worse place by not doing all we could to keep Trump and billionaires from completing the coup on this country.
 
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