Have a "religion" in 2018 brehs..

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No one needs to explain anything, I'm just saying that it seems silly seeing as you can actually see with your own eyes how much work and planning and crafting goes into building a bridge and wouldn't dare say it just fell together. Same can be said on a much larger scale when it comes to the planets and universe.

Yeah, and that bridge can't reproduce itself...somebody had to design and build that.

You can even go on a smaller scale with a cell. With all the information in a cell that can reproduce itself,
you don't just become a being made up of trillions of those...
 

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No one needs to explain anything, I'm just saying that it seems silly seeing as you can actually see with your own eyes how much work and planning and crafting goes into building a bridge and wouldn't dare say it just fell together. Same can be said on a much larger scale when it comes to the planets and universe.
and what does that say about the scale of this creator (who 'made us in his image' :mjlol:)?

how big is this dude :skip: and who made him?
 

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start at 0:40
if you're still religious after this video, then I question your intelligence


Believe time + matter + chance = everything brehs. :hhh:

You speak of intelligence but fail to recognize that all atheists begin with an a priori assumption (assuming you even know what that is) concerning God :mjlol:

Maybe you need to go back to school and re take biology and learn about DNA and cellular complexity. The possibility for any of those things to have happened by chance is mathematically and statistically NIL.

Lastly, which is the most damning of all in your silly uniformed post. I thought I would never see the day where we have so many black folks co-signing atheism which inherently is a white man's religion (belief system) :dead:

The more and more I see stupid shiiii like this makes me think the rumors are true that this website is majority CAC owned...
 

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Some simple minded people still need a fear of hell to stay in line in this lifetime

If you are enlightened you can shed religion for spirituality and continue to be a positive individual in life without doing it for the benefit of earning browny points for heaven. Being a good human being has nothing to do with your religion.
 

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You speaking wayyyy too much truth breh :whew: wayyy too much for these pseudo intellectuals who try to shove their opinions down peoples throat and say its fact these same guys who always pulling the "if Gawds real why come he let black people go thruu slavery" :to: card are the same ones who worship these atheist scientist who push evolution which says that blacks are sub human look up scientific racism brehs so u can actually learn something
Well whats the answer to why God let black people go through slavery?
 

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:dwillhuh: Useless to us, maybe. :yeshrug:


There is still a science behind all that, calculated ways to tell and show your work for many things on earth and those dealing with things in space. Somethings happen by mistake and I understand peoples adverse to religion seeing as literally 99 percent of it is incorrect.


But to say the earth and humans, the math and physics of the planet all just so happen to fall together perfectly, and I mean PERFECTLY down to the .0001 is silly imo. And then on top of that human's evolved, gained consciousness and then was able to understand how the rest of the planet "mistakenly" fell into place for them to live on.


That's harder for me to believe than anything people might call a "fairy tale" from whatever they might practice
I have no interest in trying to debate you on whether god exists or not, but this is just an intellectually lazy argument that has been disproved over and over again:yeshrug:
I mean just saying this means that you deny the existence of probability, the sperm cell that reached the egg that lead to your birth had an extremely low chance of making it. Does this mean you were destined to be born? And if your answer is yes, does that also mean everyone who won the lottery last week was destined to win it? Improbability doesnt prove intelligent design
 

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The world is perfect :dwillhuh: it works on physics that constantly do what they are intended to do. Not by mistake, and just continue to work perfectly after that mistake.

Not only does it function perfect, its functions perfectly for life to live and eat off it.


From the seasons, to gravity, to how rain works. From the distance we are from the sun to how the moon and sun work and effect the earth, then there are humans....the human brain alone is enough for me to know that this wasn't some whoops and X amount of millions of years here we are type thing. It's clearly constructed to do what it does.... Lets not even talk about things we can't even really quantify but still full embrace like emotions, love, hate, thoughts. Biologically there is no way mitosis and cell reproduction and how those things work is a mistake.


Then to top it all off humans not only are all that we are ascetically and symmetrically pleasing to the eye's.


Everything we do as a humans is crafted based on a science and organization.


Trying to say there is no God that created humans is like trying to say the golden gate bridge mistakenly fell together from nothing over San Francisco Bay and the people and cars just evolved and started using it to there advantage.

The human body is far from perfect since eating & breathing, two functions that we need to live are intertwined to a point that could potentially lead to asphyxiation when lesser animals such as snakes and dolphins have theirs more so, if not completely separated. If there was god out for us, why do we have this gaping design flaw while other creatures dont?

Humans aren't even fully symmetrical either, and of course you find the looks of a human pleasing because duh, you're a human.

The Earth isn't perfect either. Hell, it isn't even completely shaped.

https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/universe/earth-perfect-sphere.html

If the world was perfect why did we create technology to help ourselves survive? What's stopping you from ditching all your gadgets and living off the land, some of which contains poisonous plants that'll kill you upon digestion(https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/chris-mccandless-died-update)?

Even to this day with all our modern tech, it would still be a hassle to live in places like Antartica.

No need to mention the fact that the Earth and all traces of us can get wiped out by an asteroid or our sun which will later swallow our planet and explode.

UCSB Science Line

All the things you listed that we take for granted can get wiped away.

Nature is chaotic, chaos is opposed to perfection.

We're just in the right place at the right time.

:yeshrug:
 

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What's "not perfect" about Earth?
That's an open ended question that depends on which perspective your referring to, but assuming your coming from a human perspective: natural disasters, meteors hitting Earth, solar flares, the fact that the Sun's temperature is rising which will cause a decrease in C02 in the atmosphere making it impossible for plant life to exist, eventually all liquid water will be boiled off the planet's surface, Earth being in the proximity of multiple supernovae, routine ice ages that wipe out life, etc.
 

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I have no interest in trying to debate you on whether god exists or not, but this is just an intellectually lazy argument that has been disproved over and over again:yeshrug:
I mean just saying this means that you deny the existence of probability, the sperm cell that reached the egg that lead to your birth had an extremely low chance of making it. Does this mean you were destined to be born? And if your answer is yes, does that also mean everyone who won the lottery last week was destined to win it? Improbability doesnt prove intelligent design
:dwillhuh:

I don't get the connection, if your saying that there was a chance that all this could happen and "we lucked out" with a .0 whatever chance over and over and over and over and over again until we got we got earth and then lucked out more once we got earth....I'ma have to say no.


I can give you a billion trillion tries to throw all the ingredients for a icing cake into a oven and spin the temperature and I can promise you you'll never actually get a symmetrically delicious edible icing cake.

probability is a form of math.





The human body is far from perfect since eating & breathing, two functions that we need to live are intertwined to a point that could potentially lead to asphyxiation when lesser animals such as snakes and dolphins have theirs more so, if not completely separated. If there was god out for us, why do we have this gaping design flaw while other creatures dont?

Humans aren't even fully symmetrical either, and of course you find the looks of a human pleasing because duh, you're a human.

The Earth isn't perfect either. Hell, it isn't even completely shaped.

https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/universe/earth-perfect-sphere.html

If the world was perfect why did we create technology to help ourselves survive? What's stopping you from ditching all your gadgets and living off the land, some of which contains poisonous plants that'll kill you upon digestion(https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/chris-mccandless-died-update)?

Even to this day with all our modern tech, it would still be a hassle to live in places like Antartica.

No need to mention the fact that the Earth and all traces of us can get wiped out by an asteroid or our sun which will later swallow our planet and explode.

UCSB Science Line

All the things you listed that we take for granted can get wiped away.

Nature is chaotic, chaos is opposed to perfection.

We're just in the right place at the right time.

:yeshrug:

Why are you splitting hair, we can live off the earth just fine without all this tech, that's a proven fact. Have you ever thought how much breathing and eating actually reminds you that you are alive? We could not feel pain either but there are studies of people that have that "disorder" out there and they literally have to be careful with everything they do. They could be dying and not have the slightest idea. Being perfect doesn't mean, flying, breathing under water or not feeling pain. We really are splitting hairs here.


If you feel like we got lucky to get this point, I'm not hating on you I just don't agree.
 

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Then why should they stop believing if no one knows if GOD exist or not :patrice:

How can u call it a fairytale if u clearly stated in ur statement that you dont even know


:ufdup:

Can't we say the same about peter pan and tooth fairy? You obviously don't believe that they exist so what's the difference?
 

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:dwillhuh:

I don't get the connection, if your saying that there was a chance that all this could happen and "we lucked out" with a .0 whatever chance over and over and over and over and over again until we got we got earth and then lucked out more once we got earth....I'ma have to say no.


I can give you a billion trillion tries to throw all the ingredients for a icing cake into a oven and spin the temperature and I can promise you you'll never actually get a symmetrically delicious edible icing cake.

probability is a form of math.
The argument that the universe is "fine tuned" is completely speculative because that's not a quantifiable concept. You would need to know how many ways the universe could exist and how many of those ways lead to at least one planet being able to support life for a period of time, neither of which we know.
You're hung up on perspective, "delicious" is a matter of perspective and a cake is not an accurate analogy for Earth considering the many ways this planet is inherently hostile to life.
The odds for obtaining a specific sequence after rolling a die 10 times is about 60 million to one. And you're tryna tell me that baking a cake is a zero probability with 1 billion tries breh, you speculating not using probability
 

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Why are you splitting hair, we can live off the earth just fine without all this tech, that's a proven fact. Have you ever thought how much breathing and eating actually reminds you that you are alive? We could not feel pain either but there are studies of people that have that "disorder" out there and they literally have to be careful with everything they do. They could be dying and not have the slightest idea. Being perfect doesn't mean, flying, breathing under water or not feeling pain. We really are splitting hairs here.


If you feel like we got lucky to get this point, I'm not hating on you I just don't agree.

How can one not split hairs when talking about what is and isn't perfect?

Yes, we can live off of the Earth but it's not as hospitable as you claim due to the points I've provided.

I honestly don't see how your points about breathing & pain bolster your argument.

Religion(at least the abrahamic ones) dictate that humans were created be the supreme beings with Earth as their bastion. If that's the case, why are we and our planet so poorly made? I just don't see the "intelligent design".
 
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Atheists just never let you, for one moment, forget that they are atheists.
What does this guy even do? All he does is continually discuss how he doesn't believe in god lmao.
 
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