Having a stable job vs Getting a PHD

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kind of a big difference between a masters and a doctorate, in the type of education and also the cost
 

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i got a stable job where i do what i want mostly, im gonna go back to school but i aint riskin my job, savings dont last forever...
 

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I would do the phd. Trust, once you're fully into the working world, it's hard to get out.

And sure times are hard now, but it'll pay for itself in the long run. If you don't take it if the opportunity is there, you may not ever get the chance or time to do it again. In other words, do it while you're young, single, child free and broke.
 

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In this economy, a stable job is better. Having a Ph.D won't necessarily confer all that many more benefits than having a masters will for most jobs, but you will be taking on a boatload more debt. You don't want to have a debt bomb hanging over your head when tehe economy goes boom, and you need to realize that student debt isn't something you can go bankrupt on like other forms of debt. Don't get a Ph.D unless you absolutely need it.

Do you know what a PHD is?

Few people get a PHD and work in corp America

A PHD is about teaching and research
 

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I just want to throw this out there, but virtually all phds at reputable brick and mortar schools are FREE plus you get a living stipend through your assistanceship because they require you to go full time. I have always been advised not to pay for a phd because there are so many programs that will fund you (you simply have to be willing to move and live on a stipend). Most people also think you shouldn't put yourself in a situation where you have to compete for funding. Visit websites/forums like grad cafe and the chronicles of higher education (they have really good advise). If you are going for the phd, look for programs that offer full funding.
 

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But after the Ph.D, then what? What is the Ph.D in?

Psych? Sociology? :leostare:

If you're chasing a Ph.D, be honest and admit a stable job aint really what you're looking for anyway. The most stable of gigs in that arena is being a tenured professor. Even with that, you still gotta hustle, network, and get published in your field anyway.
 

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But after the Ph.D, then what? What is the Ph.D in?

Psych? Sociology? :leostare:

If you're chasing a Ph.D, be honest and admit a stable job aint really what you're looking for anyway. The most stable of gigs in that arena is being a tenured professor. Even with that, you still gotta hustle, network, and get published in your field anyway.

I honestly don't know anyone with a phd in a science or social science field (statistical training) that hasn't found a stable, high paying job. That's just me though.

Of course you have to hustle to get a tenure track job, but that's the name of the game. You have to hustle to keep a tenure track job too. It's publish or perish for anyone who wants to be in academia. Most people go for the post-doc anyway. The only reason I even want a job in academia is because it is conducive to having a family.

As long as you have sound statisical training you can get a job just about anywhere (based on my personal experience). Me personally, I could work for the Department of Education in any state, work for think tanks, work for a school district, work for any research foundation (Spencer, AREA, Mathematica, etc), any research institute connected to a university, and host of other jobs that are afforded to people who have a research or statistical background. The great thing about it is depending on the region, those jobs range from $70,000 - 90,000 per year for a degree you didn't even pay for.
 

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I'd go for the PhD. Our brains are what make us most human and to expand the reaches of the collective human knowledge pool is among the highest of the things a person can strive for.

Imagine a circle that contains all of human knowledge:

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By the time you finish elementary school, you know a little:

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By the time you finish high school, you know a bit more:

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With a bachelor's degree, you gain a specialty:

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A master's degree deepens that specialty:

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Reading research papers takes you to the edge of human knowledge:

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Once you're at the boundary, you focus:

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You push at the boundary for a few years:

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Until one day, the boundary gives way:

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And, that dent you've made is called a Ph.D.:

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Of course, the world looks different to you now:

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So, don't forget the bigger picture:

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Keep pushing.
 

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I honestly don't know anyone with a phd with a science or social science field (statistical training) that hasn't found a stable, high paying job. That's just me though.

Of course you have to hustle to get a tenure track job, but that's the name of the game. You have to hustle to keep a tenure track job too. It's publish or perish for anyone who wants to be in academia. Most people go for the post-doc anyway. The only reason I even want a job in academia is because it is conducive to having a family.

As long as you have sound statisical training you can get a job hyst about anywhere (based on my personal experience). Me personally, I could work for the Department of Education in any state, work for think tanks, work for a school district, work for any research foundation (Spencer, AREA, Mathematica, etc), any research institute connected to a university, and host of other jobs that are afforded to people who have a research or statistical background. The great thing about it depending on the region, those jobs range from $70,000 - 90,000 per year for a degree you didn't even pay for.


same here. phd's in the sciences are well sought after in industry and with it being free it's not bad as long as have that passion and drive to get through it.
 

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I can only talk with a BA degree. :ld:

If I had to do all other again, I'd throw college in the bushes. :birdman:

Get a job, network, and grind my way up; because the degree is mierda in this economy. :pacspit:
 
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