Hayley Williams (WF from Paramore) spoke some real shyt on Miley....:leon:
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AquaCityBoy
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Girl next door Christina Aguilera>>>>>>>>>>>$2 whore Christina Aguilera.
Then again, I may be biased. "Genie in a Bottle"-era Christina was one of my biggest crushes as a youngin.
UserNameless
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Word. If twerking is predominately black culture and/or a huge element or expression of black culture, then we ALL lost.
And what is black culture?
If we don't define it. Someone else will.
To be fair, the "props" willingly signed up for it.
Remember when Gwen Stefani used to have the lil' Asian chicks at all of her shows and in all of the videos?
Was Missy wrong when she used to have the lil' white kids poppin' in the videos?
Was Mike Jackson wrong for accessorizing with two white kids?
Glad you used the word associated.
Gyrations, rhythmic pelvic thrusts to drum heavy music have been going in a number of cultures for centuries.
Just because someone with more money and media influence than you or I has conditioned an audience to believe that the concept of so-called twerking is associated with primarily black women doesn't mean it's OURS to embrace or own.
The Roots of twerking go waaaaaay back to times before the modern era, traversing a variety of ethnicities.
So, should black people claim twerking as "culture or a primary expression of black American culture?!" Should we embrace it?
Is it ours?
We ain't making ownership-type money off it, and it's not substantive enough to have any credibility across generational or cultural lines (intra or external).
I vote no.
We ain't claiming that shyt.
We're just following a groundwork laid by earlier cultures.
JasonSJackson
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twerking is not a fukking culture.
AquaCityBoy
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Exactly. Only racists and c00ns think she's "stealing black culture."
fakkit thread everyone speaking on this are fakkits
The Amerikkkan Idol
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Look, I'm not a big Eminem fan or anything like that, but lets not compare him to fukking Miley Cyrus. Dude grew up around black people, had been rapping from a young age, and Proof and D12 were his childhood friends. Again, not saying he doesn't benefit from white privilege, but Marshall Mathers and Miley Cyrus aren't on the same side of the spectrum
Agreed. Eminem is not my favorite MC, but he paid his dues every step of the way and like you said grew up in Black culture. He's not a Black tourist
Yes, I thought we all agreed that MJ was a self-hating uncle tom, so of course he was wrong. and TONS of people have called Gwen Stefani out for her stealing of the Japanese culture. Plenty of people have called it flat out racist, the way she fetishizes young girls.
And PLEASE show me White folks twerking or any of these other "cultures" twerking? I'd love to see it or be pointed in the general direction.
"Twerking" is just another extention of AFRICAN culture filtered through the lens of African-Americans. I guarantee that if you've ever seen twerking before it was from AFRICAN people, not some random Romanians or some shyt like that.
And even still the ONLY reason she and all these White girls are doing, JUST like the Harlem Shake is because they saw or heard BLACK people in rap videos doing it.
Who the fukk said it was. But it's a PART of a culture.
Rap is not a culture, but it is a part of Hip-Hop culture , which is a part of BLACK culture
How?
The only place any of us ever saw "twerking" before is in 2 Live Crew or 3 6 Mafia videos and yet WE are the racists?
It's a dance invented by and for Black women with adequate posteriors in BLACK clubs.
You the type of motherfukker who'd be like, "Who says Rock N Roll is Black culture"? People were playing guitar before Chuck Berry.
nikkaz always wanna look DOWN on their own culture, and then when White folks steal it and make a JILLION dollars with it like Miley Cyrus, the "Harlem Shake" dude, or Elvis and millions of White folks with Rock N Roll , then we wonder why we can't capitalize on shyt.
UserNameless
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havoc
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what he said..
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Hayley is right
totally different scenario, if this dude jump into the country scene and sucked at telling country songs but because he was black and people took notice of him and label him the leader of the country singer team and all of a sudden country music blew up because someone who's not even good at what they are doing was doing it then it would be similar.
Molly has made twerking acceptable household white america word. But let some black chick or women get on stage and start twerking.....instant whore status. Goes from oh there just "dancing" or being "silly" .....thats not acceptable at all. The double standards are strong.
resurrection
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I'm sorry but if you think her twerking is somehow stealing black culture, what does that say about your thoughts on black culture? I think that statement itself is more racist than whatever it is you're accusing Miley of
Its part of black culture here in the south. A STRONG PART, not sure where it originally started or any of that but I know that here in the south its a really big deal.
Its not about stealing anything, its about making something that has always been seen as edgy, or not really acceptable to other people all of a sudden ok or "cute" because a lil white girl of fame is doing it.... And even with all the clowning of her for her performance she is still not dubbed a whore. (just a girl doing what she wants to do)
If you want to call that stealing so be it.....
It'd be like if dreads became a high fashion statement in hollywood all of a sudden for white people...
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
Being black is like a fad to white people.............we still don't exist on a human level to them, anything we do is 
to them, anything. It's insane how so many whitewashed Negroes don't see this
Miley is simply having fun out there, the sambos with her, encouraging and embracing her are the problem. She should've been hit with the immediate
but you know American Negroes, we love our masters too much.
Dance on Miley, we're right behind you..............
to them, anything. It's insane how so many whitewashed Negroes don't see thisMiley is simply having fun out there, the sambos with her, encouraging and embracing her are the problem. She should've been hit with the immediate
but you know American Negroes, we love our masters too much. Dance on Miley, we're right behind you..............