OatmealCreamPie
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I see.
HBCUs are struggling to survive
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I see.
Actually they're helping quite a bit. Who do you think is rebuilding Africa? They're helping a lot more than AAs, so yes, I am happy about that. They're not trying to immigrant or steal, we have mutual agreements and fair deals as well as employment.
@Clean Cut and @OatmealCreamPie WTF r y'all talking about? This is about HBCUs.
OatmealCreamPie
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Why do you need Arabs and Chinese to do it though? Why can't the people do it themselves? The Chinese are poaching elephants, rhinos and other wildlife to the point where there probably won't be anymore in coming years. I have a hard time believing they are doing anything for altruistic reasons.
Everyone is poaching in africa, not just them.
and why do they need to do it? you think the U.S sells and trades with itself? Now Im starting to question how much you know about international business.
Morehouse 
K.O.N.Y
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Nope. I'm not struggling nor is the university in my city. Maybe you think Africa is a country since you dumb americans think all africans are the same, but its not and my country is doing alright. We have one of the strongest most independent economies on the continent.
We have something in common
OatmealCreamPie
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Everyone is poaching in africa, not just them.
and why do they need to do it? you think the U.S sells and trades with itself? Now Im starting to question how much you know about international business.
I don't know much about the business infrastructure in African countries, that is true. I'm biased, I don't like other races coming into Black communities to enrich themselves, I guess it's different in Africa.
Well. All countries trade. The second largest copper mine and one of the biggest businesses in the world are copper mines in Chile (remember the mining accident awhile back?) They have MASSIVE fields that they sell to the world. Some places it's bananas, other places oil, the U.S it's technology, Japan it's cars and media (mp3, cds, radio/sony etc) Africa it's minerals.
Before, people just came in and took it for free, but now some of the countries have control over their mines (like Chile, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc) and are making LOADS of money off it.
We need to sell something in order to get on the international stage. Nigeria has oil, Congo has ...well everything lol, south africa has diamonds, these things are essential for growth. Once we get to second world status (like Brasil) we can begin to have technological and assembly based economies. Nigeria and Angola are almost there. Actually Nigeria is there, Angola is almost there, as is Ghana.
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beenz
Rap Guerilla
even when I was in high school choosing colleges, I NEVER even tried to apply to an HBCU, cuz I figured this kinda fukkery would happen. plus, with all the scattered ass, I would have flunked out anyways
kermit da hustla
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#newblacks don't need HBCUs.
kermit da hustla
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this is simply not true. WE don't prioritize the black child. OUR parenting sucks. that's the main issue. there are black parents out here who are not stressing education with their children. they'll but their kid a pair of tiny jordans before they buy their kid an ipad. they'll stock their kid's closet with clothes instead of stocking their homes with a library of books. they won't sit down with their children and aid them with their homework
black parents are the biggest problem we face when it comes to educating our children. our priorities are out of wack.
As a black, first gen, non-african chemistry grad from a PWI and having a few friends from HBCUs transferring to my school from various HBCU's, I find the problem a bit complex. I'm only speaking from what I personally observed.
-There were some alright black transfers from HBCUs but I found a lot of them were woefully no where near the academic competitiveness as the white or asian kids of the same income levels and weren't really into the material as much as some of the white kids who had their nose glued to the books. They never seemed to be genuinely interested in the material for the sake of being interested in advancing the field of study.
-The black kids that grew up in primarily suburban middle class schools typically performed much better and displayed a higher level of understanding than the HBCU kids and kids that came from rural and predominately run down urban schools. This wasn't because the school had whites but because the schools themselves were much more academically rigorous due to white supremacy giving those schools much better funding and network opportunities.
-The black students that REALLY excelled in their field and displayed a strong academic grasp while competing with the top tier white kids were usually always 90% African. They always seemed much more genuinely interested in science and taking their studies seriously. My roommate was a biochem grad from Nigeria and he loved science and was good at it. They partied and drank like the non African black kids but they kept their academic focus first as well as developing a professional persona of themselves.
-White students typically caught more breaks from teachers, TAs and others simply for being white so black students that held their own against them were typically much brighter since they were given a lot less rope to fukk up with. The black kids who were intellectual juggernauts ran circles around the white and Asian kids and practically were shoe ins for nearly every professional program whether if it was medical, PhD programs, etc while outstanding white students were a dime a dozen and had to compete with their other white classmates of their calibur. They were often always much more arrogant and entitled than the academically rigorous black students and bitter towards them. There were some chill ass white people but quite a few of them had this "black people don't deserve to be here, I should because white people are simply better" mindset. They hated Obama too no surprise.
- The c00ns did well academically but were so obsessed with kissing up to white people and Asians that they downplayed their own strengths and didn't have a good social experience. This caused them to really have no sense of racial pride and they often got mingled up with sub par white people who really didn't have their interest in mind. They were often marginalized and wasted their talents with low ambitions just so they could socialize with white people period.
-The white students were able to better socialize with professors and obtain better research options than the black kids only because white professors felt more comfortable around white people. A lot of professors went to elite Ivy schools so they weren't use to interacting outside of their white enclave making it much more difficult for black students to get their foot in the door even when they were much more intellectually sharper than the mediocre white kids who were mentored by their professor. This resulted in lower networking opportunities.
-A lot of the asian, indian and white kids were just as mediocre as the black kids but the intimidation and exaggeration of their intelligence typically hurt black student morale. They were often much more financially connected and had relatives in upper white collar occupations to give them breaks. This allowed them to do better in the classroom despite having similar intellectual levels to the black kids. White employers were more comfortable hiring them making it much easier for them to get good jobs on campus. Also their parents were often already scientist, STEM teachers, doctors, successful business owners, dentist and engineers giving them a leg up against the black kids with parents with basic office and retail jobs.
I encourage black students to go to PWI as long as it's somewhat racially diverse and isn't elitist but be very careful at how you navigate. The risks are higher since white professors are less willing to interact with their black students but if you do end up at the top of your class, you are pretty much guaranteed access to nearly any professional program or grad program. You also have to go the "extra mile" to interact with white professors since they are less likely to want to interact with you compared to their white students. This is ESPECIALLY true for black males who can intimidate privileged white people who grew up being told that white people are inherently superior.
-There were some alright black transfers from HBCUs but I found a lot of them were woefully no where near the academic competitiveness as the white or asian kids of the same income levels and weren't really into the material as much as some of the white kids who had their nose glued to the books. They never seemed to be genuinely interested in the material for the sake of being interested in advancing the field of study.
-The black kids that grew up in primarily suburban middle class schools typically performed much better and displayed a higher level of understanding than the HBCU kids and kids that came from rural and predominately run down urban schools. This wasn't because the school had whites but because the schools themselves were much more academically rigorous due to white supremacy giving those schools much better funding and network opportunities.
-The black students that REALLY excelled in their field and displayed a strong academic grasp while competing with the top tier white kids were usually always 90% African. They always seemed much more genuinely interested in science and taking their studies seriously. My roommate was a biochem grad from Nigeria and he loved science and was good at it. They partied and drank like the non African black kids but they kept their academic focus first as well as developing a professional persona of themselves.
-White students typically caught more breaks from teachers, TAs and others simply for being white so black students that held their own against them were typically much brighter since they were given a lot less rope to fukk up with. The black kids who were intellectual juggernauts ran circles around the white and Asian kids and practically were shoe ins for nearly every professional program whether if it was medical, PhD programs, etc while outstanding white students were a dime a dozen and had to compete with their other white classmates of their calibur. They were often always much more arrogant and entitled than the academically rigorous black students and bitter towards them. There were some chill ass white people but quite a few of them had this "black people don't deserve to be here, I should because white people are simply better" mindset. They hated Obama too no surprise.
- The c00ns did well academically but were so obsessed with kissing up to white people and Asians that they downplayed their own strengths and didn't have a good social experience. This caused them to really have no sense of racial pride and they often got mingled up with sub par white people who really didn't have their interest in mind. They were often marginalized and wasted their talents with low ambitions just so they could socialize with white people period.
-The white students were able to better socialize with professors and obtain better research options than the black kids only because white professors felt more comfortable around white people. A lot of professors went to elite Ivy schools so they weren't use to interacting outside of their white enclave making it much more difficult for black students to get their foot in the door even when they were much more intellectually sharper than the mediocre white kids who were mentored by their professor. This resulted in lower networking opportunities.
-A lot of the asian, indian and white kids were just as mediocre as the black kids but the intimidation and exaggeration of their intelligence typically hurt black student morale. They were often much more financially connected and had relatives in upper white collar occupations to give them breaks. This allowed them to do better in the classroom despite having similar intellectual levels to the black kids. White employers were more comfortable hiring them making it much easier for them to get good jobs on campus. Also their parents were often already scientist, STEM teachers, doctors, successful business owners, dentist and engineers giving them a leg up against the black kids with parents with basic office and retail jobs.
I encourage black students to go to PWI as long as it's somewhat racially diverse and isn't elitist but be very careful at how you navigate. The risks are higher since white professors are less willing to interact with their black students but if you do end up at the top of your class, you are pretty much guaranteed access to nearly any professional program or grad program. You also have to go the "extra mile" to interact with white professors since they are less likely to want to interact with you compared to their white students. This is ESPECIALLY true for black males who can intimidate privileged white people who grew up being told that white people are inherently superior.