HBCUs are struggling to survive

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

Good, HBCUs are terribly ran and are no different than a cac college. Hell most of them charge you MORE. fuc outta here

sadly..u got that

I went to Hampton on some...Pro Black education shyt (not knowing that is the most HIGH FALUTIN HBCU out there) meanwhile my student loan was late so technically my first semester was only partially paid..but cmon..its the gubment...you are gonna get paid HU. Well they put me thru the fukkery. I met with the Provost and every admin under the sun and at the end of the day, they all said..until you pay in full

I was

 

[Colin X]

This is why I'm going to Auburn.

Full of white people and especially white women. Won't ever have to worry about this shyt.

Ima get some white ass teachers but at least the university gonna be ran great

 

[Deaf2twothirds]

My HBCU was in between DC and Bmore and in PG County so many of you DMVers know which one I am talembout. But there were dice games, heavy drug dealing, mollies popping before classes, fights at every party to the point where all campus parties besides homecoming where discontinued. It was like the hood like someone mentioned earlier in this thread. And I aint learn a damn thing during my tenure. But its sad that I learned more post college than I did during my 5 years during college.

 

[Nintendough]

HBCU's suck. Why spend so much on a bloated community college?

 

[Nintendough]

#newblacks don't need HBCUs.

STFU CAC

 

[alpo]

Where are those educated blacks at?? How come all these educated blacks don't donate enough to these schools? I thought when we get the degrees, we become successful and everything is perfect?? I thought education is the key?? I thought it's not about the money???

 

[FAH1223]

Howard University tuition went from $17k in 2010 to $22k for the upcoming year.

Glad I stayed in state and went to Maryland, an HWCU

 

[Kings County]

When we went to orientation. When it was our turn to talk to one of the financial aid ppl my moms told dude"yea we've been calling you for the past month and no return" duke straight up said "ok"

 

[EndDomination]

Bullshyt, I went to an HBCU and I am pretty successful. It's how you apply yourself, there are people that graduated from MIT, CAL TECH, PENN; top notch school, who are unemployed. The enrollment has dropped down since the integration; if you took time to read the article "Historically black colleges once were the only option for most black students, who made up almost 100 percent of their enrollment in 1950. That began to change in the 1960s, as many doors that once were shut to blacks were opened." Brown v. Board of Education, 347 U.S. 483 was implemented in 1954, and that is why HBCU went down; because blacks said to themselves these negro schools aint shyt, we need the white man's (acceptance) books to be smart.

Also with that integration brought excellent athletes, which brings forth money to the white schools. David "Deacon" Jones Mississippi Valley State University, Jerry Rice Mississippi Valley State University, Shannon Sharpe Savannah State University, Walter Payton Jackson State, Doug Williams Grambling State, Steve McNair Alcorn State University , Donald Driver Alcorn State University & etc. All went to HBCU and the white schools knew they needed those bodies (slavery) to make entertainment for their school.

A lot of excellent black players in the south had to go to HBCU because the white institutions did not allow them. The only schools which alowed blacks were up North and the West.

It was not until 1970 when USC beat the shyt out of . Alabama with Sam "Bam" Cunningham, Southen Colleges integrated and that was the start of the downfall of HBCU.







I can agree with that

That whole "apply yourself" thing for success, is bullshyt in a lot of cases
The reason HBCUs have less students is because they don't give out a lot of financial aid, they don't have a lot of good degree programs, or because they act on respectability politics, like Hampton University and try to make you dress a certain way, and have your hair a certain way.
If a school has difficulty being accredited, then it is not a good school.
The wealthy Black kids aren't going to HBCUs, and because of that, the schools cannot always support themselves.
I go to a moderately racist school (wealthy, and conservative Catholic) but it is well supported because a lot of the students are paying the majority of their tuition out of pocket, and they continue to raise massive amounts of money.
What the HBCUs really need, is success from their students to up their ranking and make them more desirable.
Columbia will always sound better than Howard, though. And thats a shame.

 

[EndDomination]

Majority of black successful doctors, lawyers,engineers, and dentists I know went to HBCUs......

That's the past, think about the class of 2014-2017, they're going through conditions that make it hard for Ivy students to be successful. I can promise you there won't be many successful lawyers coming from HBCUs anymore. That's not to throw shade, there won't be any successful lawyers coming from anywhere but maybe the Top 20 Undergraduate schools. But there are too many HBCUs, they need to focus on both their heritage, and the education of the students right now.

 

[wheywhey]

My HBCU was in between DC and Bmore and in PG County so many of you DMVers know which one I am talembout. But there were dice games, heavy drug dealing, mollies popping before classes, fights at every party to the point where all campus parties besides homecoming where discontinued. It was like the hood like someone mentioned earlier in this thread. And I aint learn a damn thing during my tenure. But its sad that I learned more post college than I did during my 5 years during college.

Financially, HBCUs have no choice but to let everyone in. A white guy who attended Hampton wrote that they assign people to dorms based on their SAT scores. He was accidentally placed in the dorm with the lowest score and someone to rob him. He reported it and got put in another dorm that day. I got the impression that Hampton was being proactive and put the potential trouble makers and likely dropouts in their own dorms so they wouldn't bother everyone else.

 

[the kid]

graduated from an HBCU and didnt have any of the problems ya'll bytching about

Went to undergrad at ECU, a PWI, and went to law school at NCCU, an HBCU. The only complaint I had was the way the school adminstered financial aid. Other than that, I loved it. And the thing is, all the good stuff far outweighs the negatives. I am connected to Central and rep it proudly. And when I have children, I would encourage my children to go NCCU.

 

[#1 pick]

Fam, I meant Alabama A&M not A&T breh.

 

[#1 pick]

Financially, HBCUs have no choice but to let everyone in. A white guy who attended Hampton wrote that they assign people to dorms based on their SAT scores. He was accidentally placed in the dorm with the lowest score and someone to rob him. He reported it and got put in another dorm that day. I got the impression that Hampton was being proactive and put the potential trouble makers and likely dropouts in their own dorms so they wouldn't bother everyone else.

That don't sound like Bowie State tho.

Public HBCU's are generally lacking compared to the private ones.

Went to undergrad at ECU, a PWI, and went to law school at NCCU, an HBCU. The only complaint I had was the way the school adminstered financial aid. Other than that, I loved it. And the thing is, all the good stuff far outweighs the negatives. I am connected to Central and rep it proudly. And when I have children, I would encourage my children to go NCCU.

They don't hear you tho. I hear the same thing from a majority of HBCU's guys who went to PWI's as well. If I go back for my masters or PhD, I am going to a HBCU.

As a black, first gen, non-african chemistry grad from a PWI and having a few friends from HBCUs transferring to my school from various HBCU's, I find the problem a bit complex. I'm only speaking from what I personally observed.

-There were some alright black transfers from HBCUs but I found a lot of them were woefully no where near the academic competitiveness as the white or asian kids of the same income levels and weren't really into the material as much as some of the white kids who had their nose glued to the books. They never seemed to be genuinely interested in the material for the sake of being interested in advancing the field of study.

-The black kids that grew up in primarily suburban middle class schools typically performed much better and displayed a higher level of understanding than the HBCU kids and kids that came from rural and predominately run down urban schools. This wasn't because the school had whites but because the schools themselves were much more academically rigorous due to white supremacy giving those schools much better funding and network opportunities.

-The black students that REALLY excelled in their field and displayed a strong academic grasp while competing with the top tier white kids were usually always 90% African. They always seemed much more genuinely interested in science and taking their studies seriously. My roommate was a biochem grad from Nigeria and he loved science and was good at it. They partied and drank like the non African black kids but they kept their academic focus first as well as developing a professional persona of themselves.

-White students typically caught more breaks from teachers, TAs and others simply for being white so black students that held their own against them were typically much brighter since they were given a lot less rope to fukk up with. The black kids who were intellectual juggernauts ran circles around the white and Asian kids and practically were shoe ins for nearly every professional program whether if it was medical, PhD programs, etc while outstanding white students were a dime a dozen and had to compete with their other white classmates of their calibur. They were often always much more arrogant and entitled than the academically rigorous black students and bitter towards them. There were some chill ass white people but quite a few of them had this "black people don't deserve to be here, I should because white people are simply better" mindset. They hated Obama too no surprise.

- The c00ns did well academically but were so obsessed with kissing up to white people and Asians that they downplayed their own strengths and didn't have a good social experience. This caused them to really have no sense of racial pride and they often got mingled up with sub par white people who really didn't have their interest in mind. They were often marginalized and wasted their talents with low ambitions just so they could socialize with white people period.

-The white students were able to better socialize with professors and obtain better research options than the black kids only because white professors felt more comfortable around white people. A lot of professors went to elite Ivy schools so they weren't use to interacting outside of their white enclave making it much more difficult for black students to get their foot in the door even when they were much more intellectually sharper than the mediocre white kids who were mentored by their professor. This resulted in lower networking opportunities.

-A lot of the asian, indian and white kids were just as mediocre as the black kids but the intimidation and exaggeration of their intelligence typically hurt black student morale. They were often much more financially connected and had relatives in upper white collar occupations to give them breaks. This allowed them to do better in the classroom despite having similar intellectual levels to the black kids. White employers were more comfortable hiring them making it much easier for them to get good jobs on campus. Also their parents were often already scientist, STEM teachers, doctors, successful business owners, dentist and engineers giving them a leg up against the black kids with parents with basic office and retail jobs.


I encourage black students to go to PWI as long as it's somewhat racially diverse and isn't elitist but be very careful at how you navigate. The risks are higher since white professors are less willing to interact with their black students but if you do end up at the top of your class, you are pretty much guaranteed access to nearly any professional program or grad program. You also have to go the "extra mile" to interact with white professors since they are less likely to want to interact with you compared to their white students. This is ESPECIALLY true for black males who can intimidate privileged white people who grew up being told that white people are inherently superior.

Breh, this is a lot of truth but let's be real, unless you a smooth type, you might struggle greatly at PWI's even if you went to a white HS and MS. I seen my sisters do well but I also seen a lot I didn't like especially when it came to job training and internships. That's where the HBCU's kicked these schools ass for Black folks. What's the point of getting into a top 5 school in your field when you can't get a damn job.

As I said earlier, a lot of these companies still hire like it's the 1970's.

Most small businesses really aren't hiring Blacks like that no matter what school they went to.

 

[kdub83]

I think the thing that hurts a lot HBCUs are a poor administration. I won't go as far as to say that there aren't any PWI that have administration issues, but HBCUs seem to have them more frequently than others. Also, the customer service skills in a lot of the offices leave a lot to be desired. I've heard stories from HBCU students about how paperwork is constantly lost, people outright ignoring questions or being rude to them, laughing in their face and other crazy stuff that no person that's in an office environment should ever subject someone too. I don't know why HBCU's can't seem to get their financial aid together for the most part. I've heard outright horror stories regarding financial aid issues. If they just fix these two issues, they would go far in making strides to viability.