Healthy obesity is a myth

[stealthbomber]

terribly worded study

Obesity is a medical condition in which excess body fat has accumulated to the extent that it may have an adverse effect on health, leading to reduced life expectancy and/or increased health problems

the definition of obesity is being so fat that it causes health problems.

you can be a bigger person and completely healthy, but if you are obese, by definition, you're not healthy.

 

[Remote]

terribly worded study

Obesity is a medical condition in which excess body fat has accumulated to the extent that it may have an adverse effect on health, leading to reduced life expectancy and/or increased health problems

the definition of obesity is being so fat that it causes health problems.

you can be a bigger person and completely healthy, but if you are obese, by definition, you're not healthy.

Oh ok.

See, by definition (and overweight and obesity by definition is tied to BMI) just about the entire professional athlete population falls into that category. So they are overweight and obese. That doesn't mean they are unhealthy, necessarily.

What the study and article say...is that being overweight and obese (by the standards of BMI) mean you are at higher risk for disease.

But, you know...these scientists...they're such bullsh&tters...

 

[awkwardblackgirl]

Scientifically, she's at an increased rate for heart disease than if she was...say...20 pounds lighter

But Serena is listed at 5'9, 155 lbs. And she's super lean. Poor example for you to cite. That's pretty much the very definition of cherry picking considering what most people consider to be "thick"

So if someone gains 20lbs of muscle, their risk for heart disease increases?

 

[Remote]

So if someone gains 20lbs of muscle, their risk for heart disease increases?

Good question. I would believe so.

I don't think those Mr. Universes who are 300 pounds have a lower risk for heart disease than say...a marathon runner.
Generally speaking, that is.

 

[stealthbomber]

Oh ok.

See, by definition (and overweight and obesity by definition is tied to BMI) just about the entire professional athlete population falls into that category. So they are overweight and obese. That doesn't mean they are unhealthy, necessarily.

What the study and article say...is that being overweight and obese (by the standards of BMI) mean you are at higher risk for disease.

But, you know...these scientists...they're such bullsh&tters...

first off you just contradicted yourself.

second fukk a bmi, thats some bullshyt anyway. it doesn't differentiate what the weight is composed of. everyone knows the difference between obese and fat.

and did i ever say that every obese person is gonna die? by definition "may have an adverse effect on health"

some people smoke cigs their whole life and don't die, some do.

 

[awkwardblackgirl]

Good question. I would believe so.

I don't think those Mr. Universes who are 300 pounds have a lower risk for heart disease than say...a marathon runner.
Generally speaking, that is.

I'm pretty sure the study you referenced in your original post was talking about 20lbs of body fat.

 

[Danny Up]

Being "Thick" and healthy is not being obese. Too many imbeciles have b*stardized the word thick.

 

[Remote]

first off you just contradicted yourself.

second fukk a bmi, thats some bullshyt anyway. it doesn't differentiate what the weight is composed of. everyone knows the difference between obese and fat.

and did i ever say that every obese person is gonna die? by definition "may have an adverse effect on health"

some people smoke cigs their whole life and don't die, some do.

How did I contradict myself?
Yes, BMI is silly, but it is the standard for the definition, so... meh

Some people smoke cigarettes and don't develop cancer. What exactly is your point? That it's a good idea to take a chance? LOL

 

[Remote]

I'm pretty sure the study you referenced in your original post was talking about 20lbs of body fat.

Negative.
The study includes those with high levels of triglycerides but also shows that even people without such levels are at an increased risk.

 

[Remote]

Being "Thick" and healthy is not being obese. Too many imbeciles have b*stardized the word thick.

Perhaps.
Cite examples?

 

[Rusty Kuntz]

The BMI is hot garbage... it's best used for the general population, not athletes.

Michael Jordan, in his prime, was considered "overweight" according to the BMI.

 

[stealthbomber]

How did I contradict myself?
Yes, BMI is silly, but it is the standard for the definition, so... meh

Some people smoke cigarettes and don't develop cancer. What exactly is your point? That it's a good idea to take a chance? LOL

you just proved the whole study wrong by saying that basically every athlete is overweight/obese.

yes and thats my point tho. some people are bigger (technically overweight/obese) and don't get health problems. but their overweightness isn't just all fat, they have some muscle or are active.


so you can be thick and healthy.

 

[awkwardblackgirl]

Negative.
The study includes those with high levels of triglycerides but also shows that even people without such levels are at an increased risk.

So if you have two people both overweight by 10lbs, but one is from fat and the other is from muscle, their risks are the same???

 

[Remote]

The BMI is hot garbage... it's best used for the general population, not athletes.

Michael Jordan, in his prime, was considered "overweight" according to the BMI.

This is true.
But when countries and health clinics release their studies and rates on obesity, what is driving those numbers? It's BMI, for better or worse.

 

[Remote]

you just proved the whole study wrong by saying that basically every athlete is overweight/obese.

yes and thats my point tho. some people are bigger (technically overweight/obese) and don't get health problems. but their overweightness isn't just all fat, they have some muscle or are active.


so you can be thick and healthy.

I don't think you understand what the study is suggesting. It isn't that strictly speaking, BMI "overweight" people are ill. Merely that they are at higher risk. You didn't even read the article, did you?