Heavyweight champion boxer Anthony Joshua is worse athlete than Cam Newton
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godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Irrelevant. We moved on from Ali to Joshua, where you made the implication Cam is not a better athlete than Joshua. I proved you wrong. Simple as that.
Omit what? I asked you to compare Cam to current boxers, not Ali since he's from a completely different era. You said Boxing takes no athleticism, which is apparently why Ali dominated. You're discounting stamina and endurance in every single reply because you know that's where boxers will butter their bread, even going as far to say male gymnasts are better athletes than fukking decathletes
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
This is all I said to @Malta in the last thread. Boxers aren't better athletes than NFL players and their sport doesn't necessitate them to be so. Fighting is not all athleticism; it's very much technique-based.
NAH BOXERS ARENT BETTER ATHLETES
THEN NFL NOR NBA PLAYERS....
BUT THEIR SPORT DOESNT REQUIRE THEM TO BE.
Going 12 rounds>>>>>>> 40 dash
ComorianKid
Banned
Boxing is infinite time more hard to succeed in than gay ass football
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Omit what? I asked you to compare Cam to current boxers, not Ali since he's from a completely different era. You said Boxing takes no athleticism, which is apparently why Ali dominated. You're discounting stamina and endurance in every single reply because you know that's where boxers will butter their bread, even going as far to say male gymnasts are better athletes than fukking decathletes
Let me reiterate what happened: I said Cam is a better athlete than Joshua. You impled Cam is not a better athlete than Joshua because of [insert reasons]. Here is screenshot of what I just described:
Let me reiterate what happened: I said Cam is a better athlete than Joshua. You impled Cam is not a better athlete than Joshua because of [insert reasons]. Here is screenshot of what I just described:
How can we have a realistic discussion on athleticism when you say stupid shyt like this -
I mean, you're literally attributing something to him that we don't even know he can do. But then again, you did say this about punching -
A punching power is "whipping" your arm brehs
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
No, you said it takes NO athleticism, stop with the lies
I never said this. You are making things up. This is what I said:
Boxing requiring less athleticism doesn't mean NO athleticism. You're either retarded in that you can't discern size differences and you're lying. Either way, you're misrepresenting my argument again. Take your L.
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godkiller
"We are the Fury"
A punching power is "whipping" your arm brehs
Whatever I said about punching power wasn't the crux of the argument (and by the way I stand beside my argument that Cam has a good punch and punching is primarily a whipping action). The argument was about athleticism between Cam and Joshua. Punching power was just an addendum that now you're falsely portraying as the main argument. Stop, you're not smart enough to play these fallacy games with me.
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Did this clown just tag me to make a bet for $10? This can't be real life. 
To say that Cam Newton (and baseball players) have punching power because they can throw a ball, means you either have no idea what you're talking about or you're just forming dishonest arguments. I think it's both though, first and foremost you though Anthony Joshua was 6'3" to begin with, then when you found out he was 6'6" 250 you came up with even more ridiculous stipulations, you're simply judging athleticism on who runs faster and nothing else because Cam is faster, but will quickly discount power for Joshua by saying Newton has it too because he can throw a ball
Meanwhile Joshua's power is a lot more easy to see, since he's taking peoples' heads off.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
To say that Cam Newton (and baseball players) have punching power because they can throw a ball, means you either have no idea what you're talking about or you're just forming dishonest arguments. I think it's both though, first and foremost you though Anthony Joshua was 6'3" to begin with, then when you found out he was 6'6" 250 you came up with even more ridiculous stipulations, you're simply judging athleticism on who runs faster and nothing else because Cam is faster, but will quickly discount power for Joshua by saying Newton has it too because he can throw a ball
I'll address the punching power question because you're so adamant. The other stuff in your post was just my mistaking Joshua's height, which I corrected, and so doesn't matter. Alternatively, Cam being the same size and faster doesn't *just* mean he's faster. As I explained previously, faster guys are generally better at everything related to athletics than slower guys. It's all correlated.
Moving on, boxing power utilizes the same basic mechanics as throwing a football, so Cam should be able to punch hard:
"You engage up to about 50% of your mass throwing a shot like your hook. Again, your technique plays a big role in how much mass is involved in your power punch. The way the body mechanics works is by recruiting a chain of various body movements to transfer momentum (energy) to your point of contact. You generate movement from the legs, the torso, arms and whatever component of the body that generates momentum as part of the motion in your technique. All the energy from those components combines and transfers by kinetically linking all the momentum to the opponent. You’ll get a good component of momentum generated from the legs initially, but a large bulk of the mass comes from your torso as you pivot it in an angular trajectory (twisting motion). Recall that Force = mass * acceleration. Elite fighters like Pacman have an average punching velocity of around 12 meters/second, so what’s left is the mass, which usually depends on your body type and the technique to optimize it. Guys you mentioned like rumble have a larger upper body mass, which when rotated about the axis of the spine, generates a lot of power."
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This is similar to the process of how a NFL QB throws a good football. He generates movement in his legs and torso, before uncorking the ball in a kinetic whipping motion, which is initially calculated by Force = mass*acceleration, but QBs can add more force through technique (same as boxers).