Here is A Thought...What about a "Black First" Movement?

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Folks think we can go to a foreign country and get their shyt together without getting our own fam living in our zip codes together.

Even if you're ideologically aligned with pan Africanism, idk how AA pan africans plan on realistically parachuting down on black folks 1,000 miles away and helping them while skipping over the black folks here first
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Who said anything about skipping folks here in America?

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Some people don't like progress and change and keep wanting to do the same things and get the same results and then wonder why there is no progress. There is Chinese interests, there are British interests, there are Korean interests, there are German interests, there are Brazilian, there are Mexican interests. Before slavery, there were Malia interests,Yoruba interests, Congolese interests, Igbo interests and so on. Sometimes interests overlap and sometimes they don't. That's the reality of the world we live. You protect your people's interests first and then you look to the broader world for common interests. That's what the UN is for. A bunch of nations, protect their people's interests. Sometimes interests overlap and they go as a group. Sometimes they don't.

Would you be happy if you had your own country and then your own country decided to clique up on general principle and was like "Well we all countries in the Pacific."

Some of y'all get mad when people of color and Black people are lumped together but then you want to lump all Black people together when there are very different interests. Just because you have your own interests does not men you are automatically against other people. You just understand what is good for you, isn't good for someone else and vice versa.
Nobody is forcing you to join or even support
Worry about your own interests

I don't know why some of you feel the need to be a part of every fukking movement
If it's not for you keep it moving

But im Black first,AA second
Those who feel the same way can rock with me,the rest can eat a dikk
 

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Mmmm African-Americans been on this already which is why everyone is so bent out of shape about ADOS because we are moving from Black first to African-American first. Because when we were screaming Black first everyone else was like:

Nigerian first
Ghanaian first
Jamaican first
Haitian first
Puerto Rican first
Dominican first

We just getting with the program everyone else started.

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People love throwing that word around
It doesnt mean shyt when you're anti AA or anti-black immigrant

Love throwing what word around. Pan-Africanism? The difference between Pan-Africanism and ADOS is the people that push ADOS on here actually care about it, which is why ADOS stays popping on here. This is nothing but a low key ados thread anyway. The people you want in your Black First movement are posted up in Nigerian election threads and other topics they actually care about. There's no momentum for the kind of movement you want. If there's was, you wouldn't need to make a call for it right now.
 

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Some people don't like progress and change and keep wanting to do the same things and get the same results and then wonder why there is no progress. There is Chinese interests, there are British interests, there are Korean interests, there are German interests, there are Brazilian, there are Mexican interests. Before slavery, there were Malia interests,Yoruba interests, Congolese interests, Igbo interests and so on. Sometimes interests overlap and sometimes they don't. That's the reality of the world we live. You protect your people's interests first and then you look to the broader world for common interests. That's what the UN is for. A bunch of nations, protect their people's interests. Sometimes interests overlap and they go as a group. Sometimes they don't.

Would you be happy if you had your own country and then your own country decided to clique up on general principle and was like "Well we all countries in the Pacific."

Some of y'all get mad when people of color and Black people are lumped together but then you want to lump all Black people together when there are very different interests. Just because you have your own interests does not men you are automatically against other people. You just understand what is good for you, isn't good for someone else and vice versa.
Donald Trump is of GERMAN ancestry, is married to a SLOVENIAN woman, has a JEWISH son in law, and is HEAVILY in bed with the RUSSIAN elite.

White folks only care about WHITE SUPREMACY.

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Nobody is forcing you to join or even support
Worry about your own interests

I don't know why some of you feel the need to be a part of every fukking movement
If it's not for you keep it moving

But im Black first,AA second
Those who feel the same way can rock with me,the rest can eat a dikk

What does being Black first even mean?

Are we in the African Union? There Arab countries in the African Union. Where is our representative? We come from Africa. We one of the first Pan-African organizations in the modern era, the TransAfrica Forum, that assisted in the international effort to end apartheid in South Africa. The Free South African Movement was started by us. We told the American government don't work with the Apartheid South Africa government. You think any African government is gonna do that for us?

Did CARICOM ask you about how you feel about reparations they have been fighting for? Did we get a newsletter? They did they contact our representatives and say "Hey, lets make this reparations thing a global movement."

We even signed up to fight for Ethiopia in the war against Italy. Pressured the USA government to not assist Italy in anyway. We not even East African. Who signed up to go fight for us? Who put pressures on their governments for our behalf?

The only place where non-ADOS Black people have ran for office, have dictated policy for the majority of Black people that aren't their own is the USA. We had a half white Kenyan president that we supported like he was one of us.

We were Black first since the beginning. We made institutions that serve African people worldwide and we still gonna do it because that's been our role since slavery. We took that burden. We came from slaves with nobody's help. No Black countries did anything for us. Afro-Brazilians, Afro-Mexicans, Jamaicans, all of us came up by our power. There was no African brigade. There was no global war over slavery. We fought our own battles where we were at.

So when you say you are Black first, what does that mean in practice? Because every other Black country in this world is them first. The continent is African first. What government institutions or non-American institutions that you know of that serves everybody that's Black?

ADOS are the only Black people that actually did things that everybody gets to use - even non-Black people. You don't need to be American or even Black to go to an HBCU. We have the Urban League, that serves everybody. WEB Dubois made NAACP, he used the word colored specifically to not alienate people of color around the globe. That was before the internet. When Black Americans were being lynched and firebombed, he thought about every colored person in the world including his own people. NAACP serves everybody, even conducts international affairs work. That's been our history, making the world a better place for everyone since 1865, straight outta of slavery.

So define what Black first actually means because there is a lot of pretense, because Black Americans are the only group of Black people that actually made things that still stand today that serves the entire diaspora and colored people worldwide. Nobody can accuse us of not being Black first or even a person of color first because we got tangible receipts, everybody else got empty fukking words and shytty cliche platitudes and bullshyt personal anecdotes. They don't have no buildings that still stand. We put up buildings all over this country.

Check the history.
 
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To you it isn't
This ain't for you..and that's okay
Do you have any empirical or statistical evidence tht suggests pan Africanism is feasible given tha current state of black people around tha world?:goodshyt:

I say let's not put tha cart b4 tha horse and focus on home affairs b4 we put serious thought into pipe dreams.
 

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Love throwing what word around. Pan-Africanism? The difference between Pan-Africanism and ADOS is the people that push ADOS on here actually care about it, which is why ADOS stays popping on here. This is nothing but a low key ados thread anyway. The people you want in your Black First movement are posted up in Nigerian election threads and other topics they actually care about. There's no momentum for the kind of movement you want. If there's was, you wouldn't need to make a call for it right now.
Do you know what Pan Africanism is?
Half of the people on the Ados bandwagon don't even know what it is
Black First is not Ados, unless you believe only AAs can call themselves Black
That shyt is ridiculously stupid

Stop speaking for other members
You're team ADOS .. that's fine

I'm Black first and so are other posters in here
Let us live

I'm not trying to change anyone's stance
If you look Black, identify as Black and consider yourself Black first...this is movement is for you

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Do you have any empirical or statistical evidence tht suggests pan Africanism is feasible given tha current state of black people around tha world?:goodshyt:

I say let's not put tha cart b4 tha horse and focus on home affairs b4 we put serious thought into pipe dreams.
What's the alternative breh?
This divisive wave y'all on?
 

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Do you know what Pan Africanism is?
Half of the people on the Ados bandwagon don't even know what it is
Black First is not Ados, unless you believe only AAs can call themselves Black
That shyt is ridiculously stupid

Stop speaking for other members
You're team ADOS .. that's fine

I'm not trying to change anyone's stance
If you look Black, identify as Black and consider yourself Black first...this is movement is for you

I'm Black first and so are other posters in here
Let us live


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You're confusing me, breh. No one's stopping the Black First folks from doing their thing.
 

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What's the alternative breh?
This divisive wave y'all on?
How is it divisive for ados to realize we need to come to terms with and embrace our identity and take care of ourselves and our issues first b4 we entertain other groups? I say thts just called being smart and putting priorities in order. How can a serious conversation possibly be had on worldwide unity with black ppl when we can't even be unified with each other here, with tha same being true for other groups of black people abroad? That would be like worrying about trying to teach fitness classes when you're not even in shape. We (black ppl all over) ain't ready for tht yet. It's nice to talk about but reality doesn't reflect tht ideal.
 

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I was raised by a Black American Pan-Africanist father.

Which is the reason I can’t get down with this ADOS shyt.

Too much of my thought and pride in being black was influenced by people like Garvey, Stokely Carmichael, Franz Fanon, Kwame Nkrumah, Ahmad Toure ect...

Along with great AA Leaders/thinkers

Not to mention in my travels some of the realest nikkas I have met and broke bread with were African/Caribbean.

I’ll chill on the sidelines for this ADOS shyt:hubie:
Nor do I limit my identity to my ancestors who suffered under slavery. There are thousands of years of Black history prior & since.

One of the illest convos I've had was with an activist/teacher in Cuba. I'm supposed to be on vacation & dismissed 3 hours of plans buildin' with that man. I guess I didn't lie on my Visa when I put education.
 
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