Here we go again, Govt rejects UK scientists’ bid to test Covid-19 vaccine in Kenya.

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How do you manage to trust anything a doctor says, or permit whatever treatment, or medication subscribed should you or someone close ever need it?

That's not what the fukk we're talking about, stay on the topic. dumbass...

 

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Interesting article I've just come across that actually argues for conducting more trials in Africa. Paragraph highlighted below raises a good point (I'd have to check if the role genetics plays is significant in how one responds to a drug)

Few clinical trials are done in Africa: COVID-19 shows why this urgently needs to change

The World Health Organisation (WHO), in its quest to find efficacious therapies to treat COVID-19, plans to conduct a multi-arm, multi-country clinical trial. The trials have yet to begin, but ten countries have already signed up. Only one of them, South Africa, is on the African continent.

Of course, the WHO isn’t the only organisation trying to find treatments or even a vaccine for COVID-19. The United States National Institutes of Health maintains an online platform that lists all registered, ongoing clinical trials globally. On March 26, a quick search of the platform using the term “coronavirus” revealed 157 ongoing trials; 87 of these involve either a drug or a vaccine, while the rest are behavioural studies. Only three are registered in Africa – all of them in Egypt.

This low representation of African countries in clinical trials is not unusual. Poor visibility of existing sites, limited infrastructure and unpredictable clinical trial regulatory timelines are some of the key issues hindering investments in this area.

Africa’s virtual absence from the clinical trials map is a big problem. The continent displays an incredible amount of genetic diversity. If this diversity is not well represented in clinical trials, the trial findings cannot be generalised to large populations.

The same goes for the outcomes of the COVID-19 studies. They too may not be relevant for people in African countries unless conducted locally. This is because responses to drugs or vaccines are complicated and can be influenced by, among other things, human genetics: different people will respond differently to different drugs and vaccines.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Anti vax sentiments are a dead end

 

[Meta Reign]

Is there some nefarious shyt going on?

Fill me in, breh...

 

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Folks voluntarily take part (including 800 Brits for this one) in clinical trials all the time.

What is the concern about conducting the testing in Kenya so long as the participants are willing and compensated?

Good troll trolls good.

 

[Ish Gibor]

Interesting article I've just come across that actually argues for conducting more trials in Africa. Paragraph highlighted below raises a good point (I'd have to check if the role genetics plays is significant in how one responds to a drug)

Few clinical trials are done in Africa: COVID-19 shows why this urgently needs to change

I don't know if they meant it sarcastically, or seriously, but they called Bill Gates a doctor. And not the average one.

Meet the world’s most powerful doctor: Bill Gates

Some billionaires are satisfied with buying themselves an island. Bill Gates got a United Nations health agency in Geneva.

Over the past decade, the world’s richest man has become the World Health Organization’s second biggest donor, second only to the United States and just above the United Kingdom. This largesse gives him outsized influence over its agenda, one that could grow as the U.S. and the U.K. threaten to cut funding if the agency doesn’t make a better investment case.

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However, his sway has NGOs and academics worried. Some health advocates fear that because the Gates Foundation’s money comes from investments in big business, it could serve as a Trojan horse for corporate interests to undermine WHO’s role in setting standards and shaping health policies.

Others simply fear the U.N. body relies too much on Gates’ money, and that the entrepreneur could one day change his mind and move it elsewhere.


Gates and his foundation team have heard the criticism, but they are convinced that the impact of their work and money is positive.

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Strings attached

The Gates Foundation has pumped more than $2.4 billion into the WHO since 2000, as countries have grown reluctant to put more of their own money into the agency, especially after the 2008 global financial crisis.

Dues paid by member states now account for less than a quarter of WHO’s $4.5 billion biennial budget. The rest comes from what governments, Gates, other foundations and companies volunteer to chip in. Since these funds are usually earmarked for specific projects or diseases, WHO can’t freely decide how to use them.

Polio eradication is by far WHO’s best-funded program, with at least $6 billion allocated to it between 2013 and 2019, in great part because around 60 percent of the Gates Foundation’s contributions are earmarked for the cause. Gates wants tangible results, and wiping out a crippling disease like polio would be one.

But the focus on polio has effectively left WHO begging for funding for other programs, particularly to prop up poor countries’ health systems before the next epidemic hits.

The Ebola crisis of 2014, which killed 11,000 people in West Africa, was a particularly bruising experience for WHO. An emergency program drawn up in the wake of the epidemic has so far received just around 60 percent of the $485 million needed for 2016-2017.

Meet the world’s most powerful doctor: Bill Gates

TDR 2018 funders

 

[Ish Gibor]

Despite the uproar, protests... and fake apologies by the two French doctors, they stil went to Africa and injected children with their "trail vaccinations". All these children died within hours!
See the video:

 

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Date: Sunday 26th of April, 2020.


I don't know if they meant it sarcastically, or seriously, but they called Bill Gates a doctor. And not the average one.


Meet the world’s most powerful doctor: Bill Gates

TDR 2018 funders

What do you think about the lack of involvement of African countries in these covid clinical trials? Do you think the lack of representation can be harmful down the road when a vaccine is issued that didn't properly take into account the population there?

 

[Ish Gibor]

From my understanding Bill Gates is no doctor, but I could be wrong. Perhaps someone else knows more about him?

Africas problem is colonial taxes, the IMF and WB! If African nations can invest 500 billion each year in their own development there is no and will be no need for a Bill Gates fake outrage and vaccines.

Instead of trying to push his vaccines on Africans, he should invest time in protesting France hideous acts. He has the connections after all.

This leeching off of African nations has been done so long, it runs in the tens of trillions.

If Bill Gates was truly that concerned with Africa he would have spoken out against France and Britain. Since it's economic development that can and will help prevent certain causes to spread and stabilize healthcare.

The irony becomes that France has a free healthcare system. And two France doctors wanted to test a "vaccine" on African people, while France has many cases to go test on. They have more than all of Africa combined.

Why are some West African nations trying to move their reserves from France’s central bank?

"Imagine being forced to invest all of your money in French stocks in exchange for having the euro as your base currency. That is the predicament many countries in sub-Saharan Africa are now trying to escape."

Source: Wall Street Journal
It Is Time for African Countries to Shed Monetary Colonialism

"It’s such an evil system even denounced by the European Union, but France is not ready to move from that colonial system which puts about 500 billions dollars from Africa to its treasury year in year out."

France/Afrique : 14 African Countries Forced by France to Pay Colonial Tax For the Benefits of Slavery and Colonization

"We all agree on this, unanimously, to end this model," Benin’s President Patrice Talon told French media last Thursday.

He claimed that Paris has also agreed to release their reserves, which will now be vested with the Senegal-based Central Bank of West African States.

The CFA, which was specially created in 1945 for the French colonies of Africa, is linked to the euro and its convertibility is guaranteed by France.

According to the arrangement, described by analysts as a colonial relic, these African countries, had to deposit half of their foreign currency reserves, in the French central bank."

Source: Anadolu Agency
8 African nations to withdraw cash reserves from France

 

[Ish Gibor]

What do you think about the lack of involvement of African countries in these covid clinical trials? Do you think the lack of representation can be harmful down the road when a vaccine is issued that didn't properly take into account the population there?

It shows weakness and childish behavior and not willing to take on responsibility. And it's somewhat remarkable, how you keep insisting that African people should be Europe's lab rats. This tells me that you are either don't know history, don't care about Black people or …

"Dr Death," the South African cardiologist Dr Wouter Basson, so dubbed by the local press for his supposed role in the deaths of antiapartheid activists, has been acquitted of charges of murder and fraud in a high profile trial which has lasted over two years.

Dr Basson headed the chemical and biological weapons programme for the apartheid government's defence force and was acquitted on charges relating to activities during those years. […]

~Pat Sidley
BMJ. 2002 Apr 20; 324(7343): 938
Dr Wouter Basson cleared of murder of apartheid opponents

Mr Basson, as head of the chemical and biological warfare division of the SADF from 1981 and 1993, is accused of creating viruses that would only attack black people. […]

Wouter Basson was acquitted in 2002 of 67 charges including murder

26 September 2011
'Dr Death' faces S Africa charges


But we do see initiatives that are taking place.

 

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Despite the uproar, protests... and fake apologies by the two French doctors, they stil went to Africa and injected children with their "trail vaccinations". All these children died within hours!
See the video:

Odd, the doctor's were British in your first post.

Does the vaccine change your nationality too?

 

[Badmon]

Despite the uproar, protests... and fake apologies by the two French doctors, they stil went to Africa and injected children with their "trail vaccinations". All these children died within hours!
See the video:

This should be a thread of it's own wtf

 

[Ish Gibor]

This should be a thread of it's own wtf

Go ahead.

 

[Ish Gibor]

Odd, the doctor's were British in your first post.

Does the vaccine change your nationality too?

Nope, this is from a different case that was announced earlier this month by those two French doctors. That is why I called this thread;
"Here We Go Again ….".

The thread derailed somewhat into the mistreatment of Black people globally. That is why I posted this here. I have a mirror page at Lipstickally as well, because it way too important. This sh*t has to stop!

 

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It shows weakness and childish behavior and not willing to take on responsibility. And it's somewhat remarkable, how you keep insisting that African people should be Europe's lab rats. This tells me that you are either don't know history, don't care about Black people or …

For the record, I'm in no way insisting Africans serve as "lab rats".

I'll admit I was completely ignorant of the fact that there were so few sites to actually conduct trials, as well as the poor infrastructure, and institutional support.

I now understand the importance including Africans in the testing of any would be vaccine, but at the same time the downfalls of allowing western organizations to come in to conduct them (who may not be completely altruistic).

Long term solution is for more African countries to stand up their own infrastructure to carry out trials in the interest of their own people like the article above argued.

Took a minute, but I learned something. Good thread