He's not perfect, but where does Tariq Nasheed stand with you as a black voice in the media?

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Dude are you stupid. Maybe, with the action of them mackin money is not the issue.

Why do you have a problem with him trying to teach men how to get the woman they want?

Got to find something to hate on..
 

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How is it entertainment?

You know what its intended to do. TO share information.

Period.

It has a few flaws, but its intent is clear.

:mjlol:@this naivette. Yes, the intent is clear...to make money. It is entertainment, created by a professional entertainer. A product sold to entertain people. This is not debatable.

Lets not go down this fukking rabbit hole. Curriculums are derived from whatever society wants them to be. Look at Texas and creationism. Some people want one thing other people unfortunately want another.

Are you seriously trolling right now with this dumb ass question?

This is beneath you. I'm honestly shocked you trotted this dumb shyt out.

:snoop: This is a staggeringly idiotic strawman. You got the nerve to talk about other people lacking logic. :heh: The point is HC is not education. It's nothing more than propaganda infotainment documentary, just like hundreds more on netflix and youtube. I said it's not a curriculum because a curriculum is a formalized, structured means of providing an education--and education one can use to obtain skills and knowledge that can be applied in life.

Bringing up creationism in charter schools in Texas in an attempt to discredit the legitimacy of an educational curricula compared to a documentary film is utterly illogical. Pointing out that creationism is taught in some Texas charter schools means nothing more than some educational curricula contain ignorance-driven falsehoods, which we already know. But that has zero to do with the fact that academics in a formalized setting is the means or people to attain skills and knowledge that allows them to obtain gainful employment and contribute positively to society, whereas watching HC has no demonstrable or measurable benefit to individuals or societies.


Its a history documentary with a few flaws.

No history book around is immune from it.

What are you saying right now?

It doesn't have "a few flaws." It pushes Isis Papers "melanin theory" nonsense, AIDS denialism, the discredited Olmec hypothesis, and bunch of other ahistorical BS.

It's pathetic that you're stanning this nonsense, man. You just come off mixed up and contradicting yourself. You get all on your pro-science bit and just dissing people for being scientifically illiterate, or believing in God without evidence, but you stan a nikka that sells books about mack lessons pushing fringe crackpot academically-discredited material about science, history, and anthropology. :dead:

What do you do this for? What do you get out of dikkriding this guy so vehemently that you throw all your other principles in the bushes for him?
 

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Bruh

The communitiy benefits more from schools, teachers, doctors, group economics and a whole plethora of things besides a goddamn DVD. It's bewildering you can't grasp that.


So what's wrong with a documentary talking a African/Black history which can motivate people to become those things ?
 

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:mjlol:@this naivette. Yes, the intent is clear...to make money. It is entertainment, created by a professional entertainer. A product sold to entertain people. This is not debatable.
i paid for a textbook...guess that was entertainment :troll:

:rudy:


:snoop: This is a staggeringly idiotic strawman.
...the nerve... :usure:

You got the nerve to talk about other people lacking logic. :heh: The point is HC is not education.
Except there are things a lot of its viewers did not know since not all of us are reading books from 30+ years ago.

It's nothing more than propaganda infotainment documentary, just like hundreds more on netflix and youtube. I said it's not a curriculum because a curriculum is a formalized, structured means of providing an education--and education one can use to obtain skills and knowledge that can be applied in life.
Not all history is used to "obtain skills" and even further, its attempt is education. You debate that because you don't like the film. Don't confuse your criticism with an attack on the intent.

Bringing up creationism in charter schools in Texas in an attempt to discredit the legitimacy of an educational curricula compared to a documentary film is utterly illogical.
You want the world "curriculum" to be objective SO bad... :pachaha:

Pointing out that creationism is taught in some Texas charter schools means nothing more than some educational curricula contain ignorance-driven falsehoods, which we already know.
Except you need to choose your words

To suggest "formalized curriculum" really means "group of people adopted this"

It has no bearing on the truth other than what the bearers of that information proclaim it holds...any debate over even including black history should prevent you from making this argumentative error

But that has zero to do with the fact that academics in a formalized setting is the means or people to attain skills and knowledge that allows them to obtain gainful employment and contribute positively to society, whereas watching HC has no demonstrable or measurable benefit to individuals or societies.

Speaking on lesser known black history IS an education.

Having a few flaws does not change the intention of the piece.


It doesn't have "a few flaws." It pushes Isis Papers "melanin theory" nonsense, AIDS denialism, the discredited Olmec hypothesis, and bunch of other ahistorical BS.
1. you're talking about flaws I even brought up
2. this is over the course of three films...of which the most recent was the most well done.

It's pathetic that you're stanning this nonsense, man. You just come off mixed up and contradicting yourself. You get all on your pro-science bit and just dissing people for being scientifically illiterate, or believing in God without evidence, but you stan a nikka that sells books about mack lessons pushing fringe crackpot academically-discredited material about science, history, and anthropology. :dead:
Except I already take him to task for the error, but I applaud the effort.

This is history, not math.

What do you do this for? What do you get out of dikkriding this guy so vehemently that you throw all your other principles in the bushes for him?

Why are you so against the efforts of a guy trying to promote SOME actual positivity in a way not seen in many years in the mainstream?
 

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It has a few flaws
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/saw-...of-the-concepts-watch-the-movie-first.136031/

:usure:
@Mephistopheles

Mansa Musa is Montezuma?
Cannibalism NEVER happening in Africa?
Melanin being a super chemical and Melanin being a fetal developer of "soul?" This just shows a lack of understanding of modern biology and embryology. Its kinda embarrassing. Its largely pseudoscience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin_theory
Africa isn't violent. Ok. Lets be fukking real. The place is largely unstable as fukk. Not saying its all kids toting guns, but its definitely mostly poor and examples of growth are few and far inbetween.
All moors are black? As if North Africans are the same as West, East, and Southern Africans? Really?
The focus on Egypt is pretty narrow and limited. Not everything black is from Egypt. Its been "arab" for a REALLY long time.
Astrological superiority? What? Stop it.
Scottish people are africans because of black beards? Really?
Nations are falling based on how they invaded africa? Really?

Lets talk about Moors.

Not every single "melanated" person is a moor. Lets just be serious now. thats like saying Ethiopians are the same as Nigerians.

Its just fukking false.

Yes. They ran shyt in the Mediterranean area for a bit...but YOU...TODAY...aren't a moor. Just be serious with yourself.

They DID get some stuff right as to the formation of the KKK being mostly economically based and a response to white male unemployment, the psychology of american education and mental disease, religious iconography being misused, and pre-columbian contact, lost images of african influence of culture and architecture, black patron saints, black samurais, efforts to hide dark skin representations in the media, Gandhi being racist, asian and pacific influence of african lineage, etc.

I understand the desire to be pro-black and to uncover the source of lost history, but theres NO need to make shyt up with pseudointellectual speculation and let unfounded, unsubstantiated assertions run wild. If you're going to do that, at least try to go deeper into information and support what you're saying with detail.

Its not helping your/our case. There is TOO MUCH positivity to be shared in these films to be marred by SIMPLE errors.

EDIT:

Here is my challenge to everyone in this thread:

I don't care how you "get" the documentaries. Watch them tonight and tell me if ya'll have ANY problem with the content in there.

Ya'll can't tell me you agree with 100% of EVERYTHING in these films.

:beli:
 

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i paid for a textbook...guess that was entertainment :troll:

:rudy:


...the nerve... :usure:

Except there are things a lot of its viewers did not know since not all of us are reading books from 30+ years ago.

Not all history is used to "obtain skills" and even further, its attempt is education. You debate that because you don't like the film. Don't confuse your criticism with an attack on the intent.

You want the world "curriculum" to be objective SO bad... :pachaha:

Except you need to choose your words

To suggest "formalized curriculum" really means "group of people adopted this"

It has no bearing on the truth other than what the bearers of that information proclaim it holds...any debate over even including black history should prevent you from making this argumentative error



Speaking on lesser known black history IS an education.

Having a few flaws does not change the intention of the piece.


1. you're talking about flaws I even brought up
2. this is over the course of three films...of which the most recent was the most well done.

Except I already take him to task for the error, but I applaud the effort.

This is history, not math.



Why are you so against the efforts of a guy trying to promote SOME actual positivity in a way not seen in many years in the mainstream?


Lawd just the list of the things you listed was awesome.
 
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