Hey Theraflu?.....Gotta ask you a question.
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Thank You!. It did break my heart when I found out and had me
.@Theraflu You need to watch ESPN's 30 for 30 Real Rocky.
I watched on Netflix. It was a good documentary. I felt lost respect for Sylvester Stallone for not sharing his money to Chuck Wepner. I can't believe that Sylvester borrowed "from Wepner's life" to used his movies. And, I was upset at Ali wanted Chuck to do before the fight when they met at the hotel and Ali wanted him to call him a "N1gger" that had me
Ali?. the more I watched about Ali vs Frazier and made me realize how sh!tty Al was and I can see why Frazier would never forgive Ali.Watch this video. You can tell Frazier was hurt after he whooped Ali ass but yet Ali still talked shyt on him and totally disrespect him but didn't give him some credit.
He was exceptionally naive. Both himself and Malcolm X two people who were literally used by NOI. They clung on to Ali because of his fame and used him as some kind of PR mouth piece. Ali being a young black man was clearly looking for some kind of solace or familiarity in NOI and they took him in while simply using him to fuel their propaganda. However, even he acknowledged that though, he said Malcolm X was right all along about NOI.
The Gorilla thing I will never get because that shyt is racist
I can imagine racist white people were quite happy to hear that comment
shyt must have been tough for Smokin literally most of black people at the time turned against hard him hard body. They all saw him as an Uncle Tom and it ruined his cred. He lost so many fans.
Remember the Bryant Gumbel article too? Black people literally turned on him and he never recovered from it.
He was exceptionally naive. Both himself and Malcolm X two people who were literally used by NOI. They clung on to Ali because of his fame and used him as some kind of PR mouth piece. Ali being a young black man was clearly looking for some kind of solace or familiarity in NOI and they took him in while simply using him to fuel their propaganda. However, even he acknowledged that though, he said Malcolm X was right all along about NOI.
The Gorilla thing I will never get because that shyt is racist
I can imagine racist white people were quite happy to hear that comment
shyt must have been tough for Smokin literally most of black people at the time turned against hard him hard body. They all saw him as an Uncle Tom and it ruined his cred. He lost so many fans.
Remember the Bryant Gumbel article too? Black people literally turned on him and he never recovered from it.
Do you know the story about Ali and Joe Louis right?....you should be.
@Theraflu You need to watch ESPN's 30 for 30 Real Rocky.
I watched on Netflix. It was a good documentary. I felt lost respect for Sylvester Stallone for not sharing his money to Chuck Wepner. I can't believe that Sylvester borrowed "from Wepner's life" to used his movies. And, I was upset at Ali wanted Chuck to do before the fight when they met at the hotel and Ali wanted him to call him a "N1gger" that had me
Watch this video. You can tell Frazier was hurt after he whooped Ali ass but yet Ali still talked shyt on him and totally disrespect him but didn't give him some credit.
Every time ive watched that clip it's always made me uncomfortable. You can sense the pain in Joe man
I never got why Ali tried that 'hug' aka front headlock shyt at this interview. You can tell at this point in his life and career he was so into that 'I'm the best, I'm so pretty'. Probably said that shyt before his sleep every night because he was so far gone in that.I understand his trash talking and over confidence was part of his game but till today I'll never get why he did dude like that. Ill pin it on naivety, inflated ego, competitiveness and maybe a small bit of insecurity under it all too....
For some reason he felt the need to prove his a 'real black man' at this point to those NOI folks. He felt the need to prove himself so much. Was it who he really was or was it just persona.
Stan's say it was persona. Other people say it was who he really was.
I go with persona.
RIP to Joe tho
Yep
let's not forget that despite everything Ali helped Joe Louis financially. Another side to him 
breh he actually said the word fakkits live on TV
Ali was hard headed as fukk in that interview. His sheer stubbornness to go hard in what he believed in (even though his view was extreme) is a quality I wish more men had (for the right things of course).
Parkinson got ethered too many times
could you imagine the outrage if that was today
the fakkit agenda is real
this is the hbo doc that covers all this shyt from fraziers side
Yeah, that one too.
I think you need to watch "ESPN 30 for 30 "The real Rocky". shyt had me
then especially on the Ali part had me "why Ali? ?" which made me feel a little bit different about Ali and felt sorry for Frazier.
All these nikkas want is relationship and weave threads.An actual decent and refreshing topic in this forum and you nikkas still complain
Yep
Joe Louis doesn't like Ali at that time..
could you imagine the outrage if that was today
the fakkit agenda is real
shyt would be wild
I'll watch the documentary tommorow
I always accounted their relationship n off n on dislike to generational differences what do u think ?
A living purely because of his religious beliefs they took away his prime years. Ali was offered the same deal as Joe Louis had, just be a morale booster box exhibitions etc. Ali refused because he believed it was against his religion.
I remember when Ali called the opponents of Joe's record title defenses the bums of the month, Joe Louis replied, "Well, They might have been bum of the month, but you would have been on that list".