Highly Educated, Unemployed and Tumbling Down the Ladder

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Most businesses fail

Id rather get paid at a business that's thriving than starve never turning a profit

nikkas need to put their pride to the side and stack bread. You are no less of a man for accepting a job
You're right in being no less of a man...

but you can't make tooo many complains about things you don't own--- mainly you can't complain about not finding the work you want if you haven't positioned yourself to be hot on the market.


And .... if you do none w2 things you can figure out ways not to starve no matter what. Yeah most businesses fail... my old employer had 3 fail... I've had 2 fail...
failing isn't a barrier to an real entrepreneur...because he will eventually make it. The ones that don't make it are fukkboys like the person in the OP..... getting a degree in , lol, entrepreneurship
 

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The economy is a racket for those who own and control resources and the means of production. Unfortunately, people really do cling to this atomized lifestyle that lacks class consciousness. There's very little understanding of class dynamics and how the economy is structured, and people don't organize to fight for resources. As long as this is true, horrible stories like this will continue.

This economy is structured so that it is all against all. There is definitely one-sided class warfare, but the state of all against all exists within classes, too (to a lesser extent among the ruling class, which organizes itself actively and unifies in opposition to working class agitation and struggle).

At the end of the day, you've gotta have a Cream Scheme. Find a way to monetize your skills. In the longer term, the working class needs to build things like mutual aid associations and revive militant unionism and labor.
 

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The majority of businesses do fail, but in this economic system, there is no security. All against all. Even if you're employed by someone else's organization, you need to find ways to monetize your skills. You can be laid off whenever. No guarantees and increasingly few good bets out here.

It doesn't have to be like this but it is a product of collective social choices. The vast majority of people are getting screwed outchea.
 

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If you're selling ounces for 3600 maybe. Otherwise as what? An electrician? Don't lie to the kids man. Those jobs are few and far between.




You couldn't pay me to live where 70k is the "right location". People don't live in places like that by choice.

If you can operate a PLC you can earn that fairly easily.
 

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If you can operate a PLC you can earn that fairly easily.

Is that what you do?

Is there a high demand for PLC operators? Is it a skilled trade? I've honestly never heard of it (not that it means much).
 

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Is that what you do?

Is there a high demand for PLC operators? Is it a skilled trade? I've honestly never heard of it (not that it means much).

I don't. But with manufacturing coming back(hopefully) and with automation taking over...it's a solid career path. Companies are pushing this training hard with their incumbent workers. I've just been learning about it myself- it's definitely a skilled trade. Being able to troubleshoot would be the first step.
 

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Here's the thing. School is easy. If you're bright enough you can achieve a relatively high level of education without much effort
What college doesn't teach you is how to work hard. How to bust your ass to get your foot in the door somewhere. A lot of American college students think that employment is owed to them simply because mommy and daddy paid for 8 years of university studies.

So studying until 3am isnt busting your ass. What about the college students working 30 hours a week and going to school full-time? Is that not hardwork?
 

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I love to say things like I'll take care of them when I get older and get more money, but that's probably not realistic.
Breh. I know how you feel on this one. My fam struggle too and it's horrible to behold, knowing that we can't change much.
Never give up through breh
 

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You're right in being no less of a man...

but you can't make tooo many complains about things you don't own--- mainly you can't complain about not finding the work you want if you haven't positioned yourself to be hot on the market.


And .... if you do none w2 things you can figure out ways not to starve no matter what. Yeah most businesses fail... my old employer had 3 fail... I've had 2 fail...
failing isn't a barrier to an real entrepreneur...because he will eventually make it. The ones that don't make it are fukkboys like the person in the OP..... getting a degree in , lol, entrepreneurship
I think its fair to still complain if you arent a stakeholder. But yea dude made like 90 mistakes. Worker or owner you have to position yourself as well as possible.
 

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I find it strange that most people I know with an MBA...pursue it without any real job experience right out of college...

So they pay a ton to go to a 4 year university...either go right into getting an MBA or can't find a job and say "I will get my MBA"...and run up even more debt

I was a person like that. I got my MBA in healthcare management. Something that I knew I'd have a better chance of banking on. My pursuit for this MBA was due to not having immediate success. Mind you, I went back to get my bachelor's at 24. I've busted my ass to get where I am to the point that my education, experience and the connections that I've made should never leave me in the cold job wise. I now work in an analytical job for a prestigious hospital in the Chicagoland area and I teach healthcare college courses at night part time. I can see the Willis (Sears) Tower right out of my window breh :win:

Your prospects have to be realistic and even then, that isn't enough, I'm cognizant of that. However, a lot of these people went for degrees that were never in demand in the first place. My MBA chose is simply because I went to BLS.gov. I'm thankful that I've come to love working in healthcare but I also love eating, having a roof over my head, etc. Some people are just dealt a bad hand in life. I'm one of three. Everything and more that has come to me, parents and others expected because I had the smarts; always did. One sister is good with hands, a left brain person and she has a cosmetology degree and my other sister, it was bang or bust, lottery winner or welfare.

I think in some of our cases, meaning black people, our parents came up middle class, in a lot of ways due to factory/labor work and wanted better for their kids, i.e. going to school. However, the emphasis was just on that, going to school. I'm a parent now with high school kids amongst others and I get on them about not just going to school but what gives you the best odds of being self-sufficient. Don't get a bachelors in horses and expect to live with daddy because you wanted to study Secretariat. I told you since you were 8 not to do that dumb sh*t. Look at the world around you and try to get in where you can fit in.
 
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