She's always right.... (About this stuff)
But for the sake of her dem party, she's making shyt bad
Hillary Clinton: Being a Capitalist Hurt Me in Primary Because Many Democrats Are Socialists
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But for the sake of her dem party, she's making shyt bad
Hillary was trying to act like a socialist progressive to get votes instead of coming out and letting people know where she stood and what she was willing to change.
Hillary 2020 
AnonymityX1000
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She's wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. lol:
Progressives who are anti-Capitalism do not understand political philosophy, and aren't Progressives.
Its just fact, breh.
AnonymityX1000
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Generalizing an entire group isn't the way to go.
I'm sure there are political philosophy professors who are also Progressive. lol
This is just academic labels that have barely any bearing on real world results. But do you.
It's not generalizing an entire group, it's working from historically agreed upon definitions. If you're doing some sort of post-modern, my-own-truth-is-the-only-truth-that-matters thing, then fine, but Liberalism is a definable philosophy. Progressive Liberalism builds on that philosophy....it doesn't reject it.
But do you.
AnonymityX1000
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And most regular citizens who vote could give a shyt.
And therein lies the problem, my friend. Being a Democratic Citizen comes with responsibility of knowing what you're talking about.And most regular citizens who vote could give a shyt.
And once you understand what you're talking about, you'll realize that my original point that started this discussion holds true: the political left is comprised of two competing ideologies that will always weaken each other to the benefit of the right.
Case in point: many Americans on the left mistakenly think they're Socialist because it the stylish thing to be at the moment. This leads to them refusing to vote for the Democrat who acknowledges that shes a capitalist because Progressivism is capitalist.
And now we have the big orange idiot.
AnonymityX1000
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There are plenty of Dems who are capitalist who still can win elections. See Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Barack Obama etc.
This is all academic rhetoricbarely anyone cares about.
Sure there are, but it would be a hell of a lot easier for them to win if they didn't have to placate a delusional portion of their constituency who think Progressivism and Capitalism aren't one in the same, and completely turn off nearly half of the country in the process.
I dont give Hillary credit often but she's dead right here, and it's a problem the left has to confront rather than refuse to engage with. This is the first meaningful "excuse" she's given, in my opinion.
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Why does it need to be easy? That's a mentality that you have a right to votes instead of earning votes.
And like I said people may identify as Socialist for many reasons especially in a poll when they are asked broad questions. It doesn't even mean they are anti-capitalist. I bet if you polled people on more specifics like actual policies on various subjects you would get different results.
If you're saying people who identify as Socialist more often than not aren't Socialist then we agree.
If those people who mistakenly call themselves Socialist refuse to vote for Progressives then they're hurting actual Progressivism, which seems to be the best hope America has for...ya know...progress.