Hillary said "fukk middle America"

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This doesn't at all negate the main problem with what she said. She's still casting the areas she won as good and virtuous, while the areas she lost as backwards and pessimistic. This is a view generally held by the liberal class who live on the coasts and benefit from the current socio-economic order, but go into any of these coastal cities and metropolises and ask the economic and racial underclasses how "progressive" and "dynamic" these places are. I don't view the coastal regions and large cities Hillary won as havens of progress, I view them as the genesis of some of the most immoral and corrupting practices in the nation.

That article I posted did a good job of explaining how the very socio-economic institutions that form the foundational structure of these "optimistic" and "diverse" coastal regions Hillary won are directly responsible for the "backwards" and pessimistic views of the areas she lost. The most lecherous and anti-progressive institutions and industries are product of the coasts. The financial institutions that maliciously destroyed the social and financial security of everyone but their operators are creatures of the coasts. The tech companies that are currently vacuuming up the industrial wealth and power of this nation while giving pittance in return are creatures of the coasts. To split the entire country into the virtuous coastal liberals and wicked middle America conservatives is a brutally ignorant act that requires one to elide even the most cursory critique of America's institutional structure in this day and age. Which is why such a belief flows so easily out of the mouth of Hillary Clinton and other liberals. They are progenitors and beneficiaries of this brutal order.

So, I live in Colorado the “coastal region” that Hillary won. During Obama’s 2nd term our economy blossomed after the recession (think marijuana had mostly a large impact for that) but we were booming economically. Housing prices were rising, unemployment was declining, small businesses were moving here in droves along with new residents. Under Obama’s term I’m seeing news of national unemployment declining, jobs being created so I’m thinking the rest of the country is experiencing the same thing as CO. Colorado is becoming racially diverse, forward-thinking (legalizing marijuana), and an optimistic region of progressive ideas. In 2016 we vote for Hillary. But I hadn’t realized Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania which I felt Hillary was gonna win as well were still in the shytter and upset about immigration, coal, and steel manufacturing. Trump, or a very intelligent person in Trump’s campaign, saw that and took advantage with the MAGA narrative to these ppl (America first, Build a wall, punish China, etc.). The rust belt bought it. Us “coastal regions” didn’t.

That’s what I got from Hillary’s message

 

[Gains]

its like george carlin used to say, this country was bought and paid for generations ago. if voting mattered they wouldnt let us do it

and im sure you're okay with george carlins use of the n word

 

[the cac mamba]

and im sure you're okay with george carlins use of the n word

george carlin had a routine about how words dont mean anything, it was a consistent part of his act. i bet you that eddie and richard got that joke

but of course at the end of the day nah, its not cool that he made that joke. fukk do you want me to say about it? i didnt write george carlins material, and i wouldnt sit here and say you had to be OK with it

 

[the cac mamba]

So, I live in Colorado the “coastal region” that Hillary won. During Obama’s 2nd term our economy blossomed after the recession (think marijuana had mostly a large impact for that) but we were booming economically. Housing prices were rising, unemployment was declining, small businesses were moving here in droves along with new residents. Under Obama’s term I’m seeing news of national unemployment declining, jobs being created so I’m thinking the rest of the country is experiencing the same thing as CO. Colorado is becoming racially diverse, forward-thinking (legalizing marijuana), and an optimistic region of progressive ideas. In 2016 we vote for Hillary. But I hadn’t realized Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania which I felt Hillary was gonna win as well were still in the shytter and upset about immigration, coal, and steel manufacturing. Trump, or a very intelligent person in Trump’s campaign, saw that and took advantage with the MAGA narrative to these ppl (America first, Build a wall, punish China, etc.). The rust belt bought it. Us “coastal regions” didn’t.

That’s what I got from Hillary’s message

all i have ever done was sat here and thought "what stopped hillary from embracing the fact that marijuana is a winnable issue"

and if whoever dem wins it in 2020, im glad to stay my ass home

 

[mc_brew]

 

[the cac mamba]

i cant help but notice that making the "enemy" mad usually motivates them. in this case, to hit the polls for the republican

go ahead and cheer this if you want

 

[mc_brew]

i cant help but notice that making the "enemy" mad usually motivates them. in this case, to hit the polls for the republican

go ahead and cheer this if you want

how come making the "enemy" mad never motivates democrats to hit the polls...? how come democrats always have to be so protective of the feelings of republicans but republicans could give a fukk about the feelings of democrats...? did you even watch the video?

 

[the cac mamba]

how come making the "enemy" mad never motivates democrats to hit the polls...? how come democrats always have to be so protective of the feelings of republicans but republicans could give a fukk about the feelings of democrats...? did you even watch the video?

because democrats are pussies

you think ME of all people doesnt agree with you?

 

[mc_brew]

because democrats are pussies

exactly my point... democrats need to grow out of that... pussies don't win elections...

 

[the cac mamba]

exactly my point... democrats need to grow out of that... pussies don't win elections...

alright wait a second, i just went back and caught up in this thread

as far as THIS issue; offending people on policy disagreements, judicial appointments, underhanded tactics is one thing. offending people by calling them rednecks for the sole reason that they didn't vote for you, AFTER you already lost and you're just being a bitter c*nt loser, is different

 

[mc_brew]

alright wait a second, i just went back and caught up in this thread

as far as THIS issue; offending people on policy disagreements, judicial appointments, underhanded tactics is one thing. offending people by calling them rednecks for the sole reason that they didn't vote for you, AFTER you already lost and you're just being a bitter c*nt loser, is different

republicans insult democrats on every front, from policy to name calling, you name it... i'm done tap dancing around the feelings of republicans.... fukk their feelings....

 

[the cac mamba]

republicans insult democrats on every front, from policy to name calling, you name it... i'm done tap dancing around the feelings of republicans.... fukk their feelings....

well normally im inclined to agree just a terrible messenger in this case

and isn't the issue moderates? swing voters?

 

[mc_brew]

isn't the issue moderates? swing voters?

trump lost the primaries in iowa and said what is wrong with the voters in iowa then went on to win iowa in the general... it's only dems that tap dance around the feelings of others... it's not a winning strategy.... people like you or they don't.... dems trying to dance around the delicate feelings of republican voters is not going to win over republican voters... remember, hillary (who you hate passionately) tried that... she tried appealing to "moderate" republican voters... she even got more endorsements from conservative newspaper than trump did... damn near the entire bush administration endorsed her.... YOU DON'T WIN OVER REPUBLICAN VOTERS, THEY HATE LIBERALS.... it's time we stop apologizing to them for their hatred of us... fukk THEIR FEELINGS... hillary wasn't right on everything, in fact she was wrong on a lot of things, but calling half of trump's supporters a bunch of deplorables was the realist shyt she ever wrote.....

 

[the cac mamba]

trump lost the primaries in iowa and said what is wrong with the voters in iowa then went on to win iowa in the general... it's only dems that tap dance around the feelings of others... it's not a winning strategy.... people like you or they don't.... dems trying to dance around the delicate feelings of republican voters is not going to win over republican voters... remember, hillary (who you hate passionately) tried that... she tried appealing to "moderate" republican voters... she even got more endorsements from conservative newspaper than trump did... damn near the entire bush administration endorsed her.... YOU DON'T WIN OVER REPUBLICAN VOTERS, THEY HATE LIBERALS.... it's time we stop apologizing to them for their hatred of us... fukk THEIR FEELINGS... hillary wasn't right on everything, in fact she was wrong on a lot of things, but calling half of trump's supporters a bunch of deplorables was the realist shyt she ever wrote.....

and if the democrats start doing this and winning, i'll be the loudest one applauding. i hate those people ignorant, christian, racist, gun loving, gutter trash white people. deplorable was exactly what they are

but in the last election, the combination of her liberal smugness went badly with trump being "something new" (at least politically). it seemed she turned a lot of people off that were in the 60 percent

just my two cents :jayhub:

 

[ExodusNirvana]

trump lost the primaries in iowa and said what is wrong with the voters in iowa then went on to win iowa in the general... it's only dems that tap dance around the feelings of others... it's not a winning strategy.... people like you or they don't.... dems trying to dance around the delicate feelings of republican voters is not going to win over republican voters... remember, hillary (who you hate passionately) tried that... she tried appealing to "moderate" republican voters... she even got more endorsements from conservative newspaper than trump did... damn near the entire bush administration endorsed her.... YOU DON'T WIN OVER REPUBLICAN VOTERS, THEY HATE LIBERALS.... it's time we stop apologizing to them for their hatred of us... fukk THEIR FEELINGS... hillary wasn't right on everything, in fact she was wrong on a lot of things, but calling half of trump's supporters a bunch of deplorables was the realist shyt she ever wrote.....

Motherfukkers still trying to cater to folks who will vote "R" regardless of what the position of the Dem candidate is

Trump is literally the head of the party that:

- Gives tax cuts to the rich (Does not help 90% of the country)
- Wants to gut Unions (Destroys Pensions, Destroys Working Class opportunities)
- Restrict Immigration (Founding Principal of the Country)
- Wants to remove Net Neutrality (Removes Freedom of Information on the Internet)
- Wants to eradicate Obamacare and cut Medicaid and Medicare (Harms most of the country)

All things that literally HURT their voters without question, and they STILL voted for this man. STILL.