Hip Hop Journalist Sowmya Krishnamurthy Says "Drake's Sound is Stale, We've Outgrown Him..THEMATICALLY Theres Nothing New, Just Recycling..Sir Ur 40!"

[Still Benefited]

That Last Breath was on a bigger scale though. Plus he also sample DMX’s Slippin with Meek and Dave East. He should do more songs like that.

As someone who thinks Future belongs in J Coles "Big 3" spot. I don't know if most people who listen to Future listen to Future for these types of records. These aren't the type of records he does best. So I think he would have to not only completely reinvent himself,but also get better enough lyrically to attract new fans interested in his new direction. Otherwise he would probably just lose his main demo,if he made these type of songs even half of his catalogue.



And maybe Drake is fighting that same battle. I have to assume most of his fans don't prefer rapping/introspective Drake. Otherwise I assume he'd do more lyrical,rap albums more often. People want artist to grow,but losing your predominant fanbase is risky business.

One they mostly seem to only take if they think it will make them more popular(selling out/dumbing down). Not if they think it will potentially lose fans.

 

[BK The Great]

As someone who thinks Future belongs in J Coles "Big 3" spot. I don't know if most people who listen to Future listen to Future for these types of records. These aren't the type of records he does best. So I think he would have to not only completely reinvent himself,but also get better enough lyrically to attract new fans interested in his new direction. Otherwise he would probably just lose his main demo,if he made these type of songs even half of his catalogue.



And maybe Drake is fighting that same battle. I have to assume most of his fans don't prefer rapping/introspective Drake. Otherwise I assume he'd do more lyrical,rap albums more often. People want artist to grow,but losing your predominant fanbase is risky business.

One they mostly seem to only take if they think it will make them more popular(selling out/dumbing down). Not if they think it will potentially lose fans.

Cole stood to what got him popular which was those deep introspective records. He also got those radio hits as well. Future was known for anthems, with some of those songs we posted. His melodic stuff also made him popular. I’m not too familiar with all of his music just some of it.

 

[Crumple]

So by that logic, rappers should just stay the same forever? Imagine if Jay-Z was still rapping about the streets at 50, or if Kanye never evolved past College Dropout. Growth isn’t the problem—forcing artists to stay in a box is.

That’s why with HNVM. I thought that was a brilliant project because it was risk and it sounded like exactly what HE wanted to do.

What's HNVM?

I'd like it if Jay dropped a street record.

There's growth and then changing sound drastically which is bad.

Nas and old Premier but updated will always be dope.

WSG maintains his sound but grows the right way.

 

[O.Red]

Pusha T and Wife Virginia Welcome First Child

New parents Pusha T and wife Virginia tied the knot in July 2018

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[Yehuda]

"Nigel Brixx" Pusher T will never not be a corny fakkit

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They can do whatever they want as long as it's dope.

Kanye evolving was dope (up to a certain point and then it got weird after Yeezuz), but I didn't feel entitled to it.

Future hasn't evolved, and the music is still dope. Pusha T just gets more creative about the coke references. No evolving from Griselda. Larry June still driving a BMW to the smoothie spot.

This push for Drake to "evolve" is corny.

If anything this is the downside to Drake catering to so many audiences. People truly feel entitled to dictate to that man how to live his life.

This is the ironic downside to this battle. People are chronically linked to EVERYTHING Drake does. He can’t fall off because people won’t let him, even if they hate-watch/listen everything he does.

The guy is truly famous as fukk. He may have replaced Kanye.

 

[No1]

As someone who thinks Future belongs in J Coles "Big 3" spot. I don't know if most people who listen to Future listen to Future for these types of records. These aren't the type of records he does best. So I think he would have to not only completely reinvent himself,but also get better enough lyrically to attract new fans interested in his new direction. Otherwise he would probably just lose his main demo,if he made these type of songs even half of his catalogue.



And maybe Drake is fighting that same battle. I have to assume most of his fans don't prefer rapping/introspective Drake. Otherwise I assume he'd do more lyrical,rap albums more often. People want artist to grow,but losing your predominant fanbase is risky business.

One they mostly seem to only take if they think it will make them more popular(selling out/dumbing down). Not if they think it will potentially lose fans.

That’s the point - he switched out a core hip hop fanbase for Pop when hotline bling hit but still wants to wear the armor of hip hop and call himself the best.

 

[Cloutius Maximus]

They can do whatever they want as long as it's dope.

Kanye evolving was dope (up to a certain point and then it got weird after Yeezuz), but I didn't feel entitled to it.

Future hasn't evolved, and the music is still dope. Pusha T just gets more creative about the coke references. No evolving from Griselda. Larry June still driving a BMW to the smoothie spot.

This push for Drake to "evolve" is corny.

Drake doesn't have to evolve his content, but he can evolve his sound to reflect a 38 yr old who still gives a fukk about making dope hip-hop albums. He sounded less mature on Certified Lover Boy than he did on Take Care somehow

As a casual Drake fan, I just want his "Blueprint". Update the sound, find new producers to work with, give me a cohesive album that isn't desperate for a viral Tiktok hit. Bro been phoning it in since Scorpion

 

[Still Benefited]

That’s the point - he switched out a core hip hop fanbase for Pop when hotline bling hit but still wants to wear the armor of hip hop and call himself the best.

I don't recall Drake ever having a "core hip-hop fanbase"


But maybe that looks different to the both of us. I don't think he would've survived the ghost writing exposal if he ever had a core hip-hop base. I think he has pretty much always been for the casual listener of hip-hop and females. But the fact he did have bars meant fans of lyricism would check for him occasionally. He's pretty much told the core hip-hop listeners to fukk off by the fact he refuses to release a hip-hop album of purely spitting. Personally I think his armor is that he's a hybrid. So you can't really box him in to abiding by the rules of hip-hop. But he still gets some of the perks that come with being hip-hop.

 

[bl2k8]

While this is true, this take isn't even her idea. I heard this on youtube like a year and a half ago before any of the beef stuff from a few black youtuber. This Indian chick is just stealing narratives and passing them off as her own.
Stop letting these non black people try to tell us what should be going on in the culture.

You can’t steal public narratives, people been saying this for a while lmao,

Pitchfork wrote about this shyt 5 years ago, it’s even worse than it was back then because dude is older

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/drake-is-stuck-in-a-perpetual-state-of-teenage-boyhood-pitchfork.777701/

 

[cyndaquil]

You can’t steal public narratives, people been saying this for a while lmao,

Pitchfork wrote about this shyt 5 years ago, it’s even worse than it was back then because dude is older

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/drake-is-stuck-in-a-perpetual-state-of-teenage-boyhood-pitchfork.777701/

Nah that indian stealing

 

[LevelUp]

 

[L $ C]

The game right now is really missing Drake, even if he does something bad or stupid or anything. hes the talk, theres no buzz without him and cole

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

this frumpy feminist critique is so funny

 

[Jaguar93]

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