Hispanic voters were supposed to be the DNC party’s future. It’s not working out that way.

[theworldismine13]

That's not true at all.

They voted 71% for Obama and 65% for Hillary which according to geniuses like @theworldismine13 should never happen due to the intense racism of hispanics.

The men voted 72% for Hillary and the women voted 86% for Hillary.



Here's What Happened with the Latino Vote




You actually have to go back to the 70s to find a time when majority of hispanics voted for a Republican candidate.

With that said, the voter participation rate of Latinos is a major problem.

Holy mother of god, are you really saying that Hispanics aren’t racist because they voted for obama?

Are you really this retarded and naive about how the world works?

 

[Robbie3000]

Holy mother of god, are you really saying that Hispanics aren’t racist because they voted for obama?

Are you really this retarded and naive about how the world works?

We had this discussion a few years ago. You claimed Latino's racism was why they voted for Hillary over Obama. Why then did they vote for the black man in higher numbers than they did Hillary in the election.

 

[Robbie3000]

It means once you get past your mumbo jumbo your real motivation is you are scared to confront white supremacy

Black liberalism isnt really challenging white supremacy it’s about finding a comfortable place within white supremacy

Again, what does this mean in practical terms? Give me some examples....I may end up agreeing with your strategy for "confronting" white supremacy.

You can't keep talking in these vague nebulous terms and expect us to know what you mean. Define to me explicitly and clearly the political policies we should be aiming for and how do we get it done. What should be our priorities?

 

[theworldismine13]

We had this discussion a few years ago. You claimed Latino's racism was why they voted for Hillary over Obama. Why then did they vote for the black man in higher numbers than they did Hillary in the election.

I can’t believe I have to explain this, using your logic the United States is not a racist country because they voted for obama

Hispanics voted for obama for the same reasons white people voted for him, he was the democratic nominee and he represented change and plus he was pandering to them and obama ran a good campaign that deemphasized his blackness

But the notion that voting for obama means a person isn’t racist is incredibly stupid

 

[theworldismine13]

Again, what does this mean in practical terms? Give me some examples....I may end up agreeing with your strategy for "confronting" white supremacy.

You can't keep talking in these vague nebulous terms and expect us to know what you mean. Define to me explicitly and clearly the political policies we should be aiming for and how do we get it done. What should be our priorities?

Confronting white supremacy means ‘black first’, that’s the basic foundation of your political stance
As opposed to “progressive” being the foundation of your stance

Black first puts you in a direct confrontation with white supremacy, being a progressive doesn’t

In practical terms and in specific terms it means not supporting an influx of cheap labor and people from Mexico and South America when black America has the highest unemployment rate of any demographic, it means taking a neutral stance between the political parties because of their white supremacy, it means forcing politicians to put black issues first and others issues second

 

[Robbie3000]

I can’t believe I have to explain this, using your logic the United States is not a racist country because they voted for obama

Hispanics voted for obama for the same reasons white people voted for him, he was the democratic nominee and he represented change and plus he was pandering to them and obama ran a good campaign

But the notion that voting for obama means a person isn’t racist is incredibly stupid

I'm responding to your silly claims made about the 08 election. You said Latinos are so driven by race, that they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary over Obama. I pointed out that familiarity with the Clinton brand is why they voted for Hillary over Obama.

Now the 2016 shows more Latinos voted for Obama over Hillary. This clearly contradicts your position of Latinos being driven by racial motives.

 

[theworldismine13]

I'm responding to your silly claims made about the 08 election. You said Latinos are so driven by race, that they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary over Obama. I pointed out that familiarity with the Clinton brand is why they voted for Hillary over Obama.

Now the 2016 shows more Latinos voted for Obama over Hillary. This clearly contradicts your position of Latinos being driven by racial motives.

I’m not understanding why you conflate the primary election to the general

A lot racist people voted for obama in fact I remember an article quoting a redneck saying he plans to vote for the ******

But anyways please stop with your rudementary political analysis and your historically ignorant babbling, the anti black racism in Latin America is thoroughly documented

 

[Robbie3000]

Confronting white supremacy means ‘black first’, that’s the basic foundation of your political stance
As opposed to “progressive” being the foundation of your stance

Black first puts you in a direct confrontation with white supremacy, being a progressive doesn’t

In practical terms and in specific terms it means not supporting an influx of cheap labor and people from Mexico and South America when black America has the highest unemployment rate of any demographic, it means taking a neutral stance between the political parties because of their white supremacy, it means forcing politicians to put black issues first and others issues second

So the only issue that you can clearly articulate is anti-immigration. Let's table that for a second.

Let's get some clarity on your other points.


1) What do you mean by "take a neutral stance between political parties"?
2) What black issues should we pressure politicians to make a priority?

Off the bat, I can tell you the issue that I care about and which I lend my support:

1. Prison reform - especially for non violent drug offenders.
2. End of the destructive war on drugs.
3. Climate change
4. Universal Healthcare
5. Free Trade School and Higher Education
6. $15 minimum wage tied to inflation
7. Slashing the defense budget and allocating funds to domestic use.

Aside from anti-immigration, which specific issues should black people care about and which party is currently supporting those issues?

 

[Robbie3000]

I’m not understanding why you conflate the primary election to the general

A lot racist people voted for obama in fact I remember an article quoting a redneck saying he plans to vote for the ******

But anyways please stop with your rudementary political analysis and your historically ignorant babbling, the anti black racism in Latin America is thoroughly documented

You are better than this.


You know damn well the majority of white voters driven by racial animosity vote Republican. There is ample evidence of this.

What i'm waiting for is evidence of racial animosity being a driver of any magnitude in Latino voting history or patterns.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Majority of legal immigrants don't like the idea of illegal immigration?

You don't say...

 

[theworldismine13]

You are better than this.


You know damn well the majority of white voters driven by racial animosity vote Republican. There is ample evidence of this.

What i'm waiting for is evidence of racial animosity being a driver of any magnitude in Latino voting history or patterns.

i never said that racial animosity was the driving factor of latino voting history so i dont know why i would have to show that, what i said is that latin america has a longer history of anti black racism then the united states and its silly to think that anti black racism stops when they come to the united states

my point in that post is that you cannot use voting as a litmus test for racism, voting is complicated and race is just one factor, so its entirely possible for a racist person to vote for a black candidate....im disturbed that I have to explain this, obviously I have not done a good job of guiding and teaching you simpletons, it takes a profound level of stupidity and ignorance to think that hispanics voting for obama or democratic is evidence that hispanics are not racist against black people

 

[theworldismine13]

So the only issue that you can clearly articulate is anti-immigration. Let's table that for a second.

Let's get some clarity on your other points.


1) What do you mean by "take a neutral stance between political parties"?

it means splitting the vote

2) What black issues should we pressure politicians to make a priority?

any issue you want as long as it puts black people first

examplse are
punishment and jail for police officers that violate the law
free schooling and higher education for black people
direct economic assistance for black americans
direct assistance for black business

Off the bat, I can tell you the issue that I care about and which I lend my support:

1. Prison reform - especially for non violent drug offenders.
2. End of the destructive war on drugs.
3. Climate change
4. Universal Healthcare
5. Free Trade School and Higher Education
6. $15 minimum wage tied to inflation
7. Slashing the defense budget and allocating funds to domestic use.

ok thanks for sharing the democratic party platform with me, you forgot to add that you are trying to flood the labor markets with 11 million people and also bring in millions more of low skilled labor while ignoring that black people have the highest unemployment and the least education.

so basically you are going to increase the labor pool dramatically while also increasing the minimum wage which will decrease the number of jobs and this will help who?

Aside from anti-immigration, which specific issues should black people care about and which party is currently supporting those issues?

there is no specific issue that black people need to care about, but the overall purpose of black politics should be black economic dominance so any specific issue has to be with that overall goal in mind

there is no party that supports black economic dominance so i dont support either party

 

[Pressure]

twism has a negative post/dap ratio on the Coli. It's amazing he doesn't have a WOAT next to his name

 

[Robbie3000]

it means splitting the vote



any issue you want as long as it puts black people first

examplse are
punishment and jail for police officers that violate the law
free schooling and higher education for black people
direct economic assistance for black americans
direct assistance for black business



ok thanks for sharing the democratic party platform with me, you forgot to add that you are trying to flood the labor markets with 11 million people and also bring in millions more of low skilled labor while ignoring that black people have the highest unemployment and the least education.

so basically you are going to increase the labor pool dramatically while also increasing the minimum wage which will decrease the number of jobs and this will help who?



there is no specific issue that black people need to care about, but the overall purpose of black politics should be black economic dominance so any specific issue has to be with that overall goal in mind

there is no party that supports black economic dominance so i dont support either party

punishment and jail for police officers that violate the law
free schooling and higher education for black people
direct economic assistance for black americans
direct assistance for black business

Don't look now, but you might be a liberal. Your issues are mighty progressive. Good luck getting the GOP to support those issues especially when you attach race to it.

But you are not the dumbass demagogue you come across at first. I mean aside from your stance on immigration, looks like we align on most other issues.

My way of getting there (electing progressives as part of coalition) is more practical than your nonsensical "Split the vote" strategy which really is just nonsense you spew too make yourself seem "independent" minded.

 

[theworldismine13]

punishment and jail for police officers that violate the law
free schooling and higher education for black people
direct economic assistance for black americans
direct assistance for black business

Don't look now, but you might be a liberal. Your issues are mighty progressive. Good luck getting the GOP to support those issues especially when you attach race to it.

But you are not the dumbass demagogue you come across at first. I mean aside from your stance on immigration, looks like we align on most other issues.

My way of getting there (electing progressives as part of coalition) is more practical than your nonsensical "Split the vote" strategy which really is just nonsense you spew too make yourself seem "independent" minded.

my views are can be classified as center right and im a milton friedman and marcus garvey disciple

i dont give a fuk about the GOP or the democratic party, im not trying to get then to do anything per se, im just expressing my views of what they do and say