Hispanic voters were supposed to be the DNC party’s future. It’s not working out that way.

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Seems the problem is voter turnout and not the way they vote. They voted 71% for Hillary and Obama.

Nap, with your xenophobia, maybe you would feel more at home in the Republican party.

And the GOP turns around and flips that support for xenophobic arguments that Third Way politicians seemed to embrace and creates voter fraud accusations and voter id laws that disenfranchise poor people and people of color.
 

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I never get why the Democratic Party assumed Latinos would vote Dem long term like Blacks since the 60s. Unlike us, who will probably never be allowed full assimilation, they are essentially an immigrant group and once they more or less fully assimilate they will closely match the rest of the population. Same thing happened to the Dems with Irish, Italian, and S. European immigrants. Once they became middle class and Nixon recruited them, it was a wrap.

People have short memories. If Trump had stayed home in 2015 and 16, we would have very likely had a Hispanic Republican presidential candidate or Bush whose wife is Hispanic. That would have blown the Dem strategy apart.

Especially given the widespread Catholic and Evangelical contingent in the Hispanic community as well as a lot of business owners, I would be surprised if they aren't split down the middle long term. These fools thought 'non-White' meant they would only tilt Democrat:mjlol:.
 

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I never get why the Democratic Party assumed Latinos would vote Dem long term like Blacks since the 60s. Unlike us, who will probably never be allowed full assimilation, they are essentially an immigrant group and once they more or less fully assimilate they will closely match the rest of the population. Same thing happened to the Dems with Irish, Italian, and S. European immigrants. Once they became middle class and Nixon recruited them, it was a wrap.

People have short memories. If Trump had stayed home in 2015 and 16, we would have very likely had a Hispanic Republican presidential candidate or Bush whose wife is Hispanic. That would have blown the Dem strategy apart.

Especially given the widespread Catholic and Evangelical contingent in the Hispanic community as well as a lot of business owners, I would be surprised if they aren't split down the middle long term. These fools thought 'non-White' meant they would only tilt Democrat:mjlol:.

False analogy. As long as there is a border with Mexico, Mexico is less affluent, and we have people crossing the border, there will be tension between whites and Mexicans

Plus, Unlike earlier immigration waves, the low white birth rate is frightening a lot of whites and turning them into extreme xenophobes.
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yes, cubans tend to vote more GOP...but it's just not true to say that they're the only hispanic/latino group that votes that way.

why do you think the GOP runs Texas....they get HUGE percentages among hispanics and most are originally from mexico...and the GOP candidate usually gets something like 30% of hispanic votes every presidential election. there arent enough cubans in the US to do this.
 

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I never get why the Democratic Party assumed Latinos would vote Dem long term like Blacks since the 60s. Unlike us, who will probably never be allowed full assimilation, they are essentially an immigrant group and once they more or less fully assimilate they will closely match the rest of the population. Same thing happened to the Dems with Irish, Italian, and S. European immigrants. Once they became middle class and Nixon recruited them, it was a wrap.

People have short memories. If Trump had stayed home in 2015 and 16, we would have very likely had a Hispanic Republican presidential candidate or Bush whose wife is Hispanic. That would have blown the Dem strategy apart.

Especially given the widespread Catholic and Evangelical contingent in the Hispanic community as well as a lot of business owners, I would be surprised if they aren't split down the middle long term. These fools thought 'non-White' meant they would only tilt Democrat:mjlol:.
and people call ME the bigot :snoop:
 

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I never get why the Democratic Party assumed Latinos would vote Dem long term like Blacks since the 60s. Unlike us, who will probably never be allowed full assimilation, they are essentially an immigrant group and once they more or less fully assimilate they will closely match the rest of the population. Same thing happened to the Dems with Irish, Italian, and S. European immigrants. Once they became middle class and Nixon recruited them, it was a wrap.

People have short memories. If Trump had stayed home in 2015 and 16, we would have very likely had a Hispanic Republican presidential candidate or Bush whose wife is Hispanic. That would have blown the Dem strategy apart.

Especially given the widespread Catholic and Evangelical contingent in the Hispanic community as well as a lot of business owners, I would be surprised if they aren't split down the middle long term. These fools thought 'non-White' meant they would only tilt Democrat:mjlol:.
I've posted it a few times but Hispanics largely stop viewing themselves as Hispanic as they get further away from first generation immigration. Over 50 percent do not identify as Hispanic once they reach 4th generation .
Latino Identity Declines Across Generations as Immigrant Ties Weaken

Among self-identified Hispanics, 78% of immigrants say strangers on the street would think they were Hispanic or Latino. That share falls to two-thirds among second-generation Hispanics and 46% among third or higher generation Hispanics.

The share falls even further, to just 7%, among U.S. adults with Hispanic ancestry who do not self-identify as Hispanic. Meanwhile, 59% say passersby on the street would describe them as white, and not Hispanic or Latino.
 

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False analogy. As long as there is a border with Mexico, Mexico is less affluent, and we have people crossing the border, there will be tension between whites and Mexicans

Plus, Unlike earlier immigration waves, the low white birth rate is frightening a lot of whites and turning them into extreme xenophobes.
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There was a lower birth rate amongst Protestant Whites than Catholic, Jewish, and Orthodox immigrants 100 years before. Read about the early eugenics movement, even after the borders closed they still went in on ethnic Whites till the 50s or so. Also, I never said there wouldn't be tension, but how relevant will it be as compared to us? Hispanics marry out near 50% in the younger generation, I can see economic tension lasting but I don't see Hispanics being a racial outgroup more than one more generation. The fresh immigrants will get differentiated somehow.
 

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They're fukkin idiots :hhh:

Stupid ass people don't realize that they're not white

I'm so sick of the white man
 

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There was a lower birth rate amongst Protestant Whites than Catholic, Jewish, and Orthodox immigrants 100 years before. Read about the early eugenics movement, even after the borders closed they still went in on ethnic Whites till the 50s or so. Also, I never said there wouldn't be tension, but how relevant will it be as compared to us? Hispanics marry out near 50% in the younger generation, I can see economic tension lasting but I don't see Hispanics being a racial outgroup more than one more generation. The fresh immigrants will get differentiated somehow.

One of the big reasons bigotry against European immigrants died is because immigration from those areas ended and they were given a chance to assimilate. If those immigrants kept coming in huge numbers, they probably don't get accepted as 'whites'.

Xenophobia on the right will force Latinos to keep voting majority democrats unless GOP embraces immigrants which I don't see happening. In any case, Reagan tried bribing them with amnesty and it didn't have a lasting effect.

Minority groups are put off by hostility of whites in the GOP. Asians and Jews, the two wealthiest ethnic and racial groups, vote 70% plus for Democrats even though they have every incentive to vote GOP.
 
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