Hispanics went for Trump and now he’s breaking their institutions. The White House will no longer defend grants to Hispanic Serving Colleges.

[Turtle]

I graduated from an HSI college.

HSI and HBCU is not the same thing btw. kinda apples to oranges. HSI means hispanic serving intuition. Basically any school that has mostly latinos enrolled. Nothing more.

Yes you are correct, what i’m saying is HSI is just another acronym like DEI, it sounds nice to racist people, but all of those schools are just regular universities. Like, hispanic universities don’t exist that isn’t a thing. They’re just taking funding away from regular schools and using the latino shyt as an excuse to do so. It doesn’t hurt hispanics only it hurts whoever goes to the school.

 

[romeodunn]

the HHCU’s will have to suffer..

Lmao bro this means nothing because Spanish people don’t have schools like that.

Hispanics have the lowest level of educational attainment among all minority groups.

 

[Turtle]

Hispanics have the lowest level of educational attainment among all minority groups.

Assuming that’s true, which it isn’t, basically means all the black and white kids are getting the short end of the stick right? With this law specifically. By your logic, right?

 

[romeodunn]

Assuming that’s true, which it isn’t, basically means all the black and white kids are getting the short end of the stick right? With this law specifically. By your logic, right?

Hispanics have the lowest rates of high school graduation and bachelor's degree attainment compared to other racial and ethnic groups in the United States. This is partly due to factors such as being more likely to attend high-poverty schools and historical barriers to education. (Can be verified on census.gov and many other sources)

I am not attacking Hispanics or minority groups, may be you misunderstood my post.

 

[Turtle]

Hispanics have the lowest rates of high school graduation and bachelor's degree attainment compared to other racial and ethnic groups in the United States. This is partly due to factors such as being more likely to attend high-poverty schools and historical barriers to education. (Can be verified on census.gov and many other sources)

I am not attacking Hispanics or minority groups, may be you misunderstood my post.

I’m not attacking you either, but assuming right, theTrump administration is taking funding away from schools that have latinos, but, you just said, latinos don’t graduate high school. Lets assume thats true.


So that means, colleges are primarily white/black/ asian right? But latinos don’t graduate college (incorrect statistic but i’ll play devils advocate), so if latino serving universities are getting money taken away, but latinos arent in the schools? Who is suffering?

Who is in the school? Again, by way of your statistics, white/black/asian kids. So, it’s just silly that this administration wants to paint this as hurting a specific group, and people in this thread (not you) are clapping for it.

Meanwhile, shyt is going to hurt everyone equally. If latinos don’t graduate high school, it’s going to hurt them the least right?

 

[romeodunn]

I’m not attacking you either, but assuming right, theTrump administration is taking funding away from schools that have latinos, but, you just said, latinos don’t graduate high school. Lets assume thats true.


So that means, colleges are primarily white/black/ asian right? But latinos don’t graduate college (incorrect statistic but i’ll play devils advocate), so if latino serving universities are getting money taken away, but latinos arent in the schools? Who is suffering?

Who is in the school? Again, by way of your statistics, white/black/asian kids. So, it’s just silly that this administration wants to paint this as hurting a specific group, and people in this thread (not you) are clapping for it.

Meanwhile, shyt is going to hurt everyone equally. If latinos don’t graduate high school, it’s going to hurt them the least right?

The legislation hurts most minority groups and it's a terrible idea. I think a lot of Latinos lean heavily towards blue collar jobs and tend to start families much earlier so maybe that's the reason.

 

[Turtle]

Latino HS graduation rates are higher, not by a lot but the numbers are higher. This chart is from 2021, I will try to find a more recent statistics.

 

[Turtle]

The legislation hurts most minority groups and it's a terrible idea. I think a lot of Latinos lean heavily towards blue collar jobs and tend to start families much earlier so maybe that's the reason.

It’s a culture thing too.

Also, in both communities there are major health issues which make people enter the workforce sooner to support their families.

My dad had diabetes and a stroke and it fukked my whole situation up so ai get that part too. It’s a layered problem

 

[Still Benefited]

I wonder if this lays the groundwork to defund HBCUs on the grounds of discrimination. A (predominantly white) institution might argue they miss out on millions in govt funding that is designated for HBCUs.

Impossible. Primarily for 3.reasons

Spoiler: Reason 1

1) many hbcu(s) like Howard or Tuskegee are literally built on federal land meaning the feds have a lot of leverage. Or have land in a trust by a racist state govt, which must be kept in check by the feds(most of the rest of hbcu(s))

Spoiler: Reason 2

2) The point of universities is research. Almost all the research is directly or indirectly funded by the federal govt. Even industry research from Facebook or Moderna is often based on indirect contracts with DARPA or the CDC. Usually, The excess from federal govt funds subsidizes the other programs of the University. Student tuition isn't what funds these schools.

Furthermore, Professors get much of their pay dependent on how many federal grants they can get for their lab. Their grants pay a big chunk of their salary, not student tuition. For example NIH k grants and MIRA awards pay almost 75% of a medical professor's salary.

Spoiler: Reason 3

3) In theory, you could self fund a lot of this , but it would very quickly price out most of the black population if they had to foot the full bill for college facilities, admin, and professors. Most students are unaware that a big chunk of of their education is subsidized.


Some groups like the Mormons have managed to run schools independently with entities like BYU or Ensign College , but they could only accomplish this because they had a mandatory tax(tithe) which their people religiously pay. Good luck getting this type of cooperation from black people.

"Brunson, said she sees this moment as an opportunity to reset.

“Education is under attack and it’s just something that we’re kind of in the trenches with,” she said. “If anything, it’s making us go back to the deeper philosophical reason for why we are here in the first place.”

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I could not agree more
HBCUs have lost there way and a reset is needed. HBCUs arent about getting equal education and opportunity to white folks. Nows the time for the foward thinkers.