Historically, D Wade Truly fukked Himself Amongst The Media/Analysts By Letting Lebron Join Miami

[Brief Keef]

LeBron made Wade's legacy BETTER than it would have been alone.

Wade was struggling to get 1st round series Wins in a watered down East before LeBron joined up.

Without LeBron, all Wade has is a controversial 2006 Finals MVP and ...nice averages?

He really ain't done shyt without LeBron other than getting to the FT line a ton.

and WTF was lebron doing ? losing to the celtics like 3 times then the Magic ? both of them was gettin fukked up...and Bron had the better team...dont be one of them nikkas...lmao @ a controversial finals MVP who the fukk else was gonna get it even if the mavs won ??? yall nikkas silly

 

[Brief Keef]

I don't look at Wade the same way I look at Kobe, LeBron, Duncan, Dirk, KG.

Wade relied too much on his athleticism and he has always had durability issues. When he was peak and healthy, he was a top 3 player in the world, no doubt.

But unfortunately those moments were few and far between. He didn't have the kind of sustained success those other guys did, and for me, that's HUGE. It's more important than just a magical playoff run.

To me, Dirk carrying Dallas to 12 straight 50 win seasons is more impressive than the 2011 Finals MVP. Ring means more in the sports world, sure. But he was doing heavy lifting for a LOOOOONG stretch of time. And those other guys I listed above were as well.

Dwyane Wade was an ELITE player, and it could be argued that at his peak he was a better player than Dirk and KG. You might pick him for your team if you were playing ball and had 1 game to win. And nobody would blame you.

But for overall player, overall career, quality of play and player over a lengthy period of time, I simply can't put him in the class with those other guys in his generation. His reliance of athleticism and durability issues don't allow him to have that kind of legacy in my opinion.


But what do I know

and what are these nikkas doing right now ? Wade missed 40 something games the last two years yet still averages more than both of them (career wise also) also averages more than D.Rose and averages the same as Kyrie what's ya issue breh ? really ?

 

[Brief Keef]

Wade has arguably one of the best NBA Finals performances of all time on his resume.
Wade helped lead the Heat to the playoffs as a rookie.
The disrespect D Wade gets is sickening.

he a bulls fan what u expect he may be trolling he may be serious ask him how his man D.Rose doing tho cuz stay hating on Wade but yet Wade been playin more games then Rose since 2011...still averaged more than Hoezay last year too

 

[Brief Keef]

Actually, it is. And it's pretty clear he lacks basic basketball skills that are showing now that he is losing his athleticism.

He's a career 28.9% 3pt shooter. Last two seasons he has shot 28.1% and 28.4%. That's horrendous for a SG. One of the worst 3pt shooting SGs of all time.

He's also gotten to the line less. Down to 4.8 and 6.0 FTAs per game the last two years. A far cry from his career average of 8.1 FTAs per game. Obviously his PPG has suffered because of this.

His blocks have plummeted all the way down to 0.5 and 0.3 blocks per game the last two seasons. Career average of 0.9 blocks per game. Is he actually the great defensive stopper we thought he was or was he just an athletic freak who gambled a lot?

And he can no longer play in 82 games. Well, that's been the case for a while now. Last season he played in 62 games. Year before that he played in only 54.

In his 12 year career, he has only played in 70+ games a season 5 times.

He's not cooking anybody on a regular basis. He never developed a reliable jumper. Never could shoot the 3. Has failed to get to the line like he used to and his numbers have fallen because of that. He used to be a great off-ball defender because of his willingness to play help defense and athleticism allowed him to block shots inside. No longer the case.

Stats clearly show he has severe durability issues and that his game is massively affected by his reliance on athleticism. I'm not delusional, you are. The stats show a player who was ELITE when his athleticism was intact, but his game has not aged gracefully. I understand that he is 33 years old, but he started to fall off a cliff while he was in his 30 year old season.

People acting like he has worked on his jumper the way Melo, KD, Dirk have. He hasn't. And it hurts him now at this point in his career. He's a completely different player now that he can't get to the rim and shoot 10 FTs a game like he used to. His skill level has declined because his athleticism allowed him to play the game a different way and at another level when he was beasting. He's not doing that anymore.

But you're probably going to just chalk this up as some sort of Dallas bias. Go ahead. I saw Kobe and Dirk and Duncan still be AMAZING and effective players who could play a lot of minutes and a lot of games past 30 years old. Dwyane Wade not bout that life.

Dirk Nowitzki

Dwyane Wade

what life Dirk about ?

Wade 31 min last year Dirk 29 and avg more than Dirk.... Wade and kobe both missed alot of games last season kobe obviously missed more and Wade def played more min and avg more than Timmy so again what's you dudes agenda ? nikka dirk played 77 games to Wade's 62 still couldn't avg more

 

[Brief Keef]

It's hilarious to me that for every athlete in every sport, we use whole body of work.

But for Dwyane Wade, 6 game sample size is enough.


But I'm the stan/troll here

u wanna talk about body of work ill give u body of work Since D.Wade has entered the league ya man only averaged more points then him twice Wade's rookie season and the 13/14 season fukk is u smoking fam

 

[I.V.]

This thread is terrible. Not so much for the original topic, which is fair to debate... but the discussion afterwards.

Dudes out here really arguing that Dolph Schayes and David DeBusschere and Lenny Wilkens were better than Dwyane Wade? :billyawn:

 

[Brief Keef]

the Wade hate from you nikkas is SHAMEFUL especially Mavs fans i rather yall keep it 100 and just say yall hate D.Wade cuz it aint about logic at this point yall squared it up with us back in 2011 and yall still salty and we been doin nothin but bussin yall ass since then...and as of today yeah it's only pre season but since yall wanna be petty you bum ass nikkas still winless (mavs) and Wade was on tv doin what he does best makin clutch ass game winning buckets so u Mavs stans Bulls Stans Knicks stans keep hating on Wade we in that ECF this year i dont kno what yall nikkas gon be doing fukkin bums

 

[Shadow King]

I didn't realize how long this thread has gotten but this nikka Wade is underappreciated for real.

Jordan
Kobe
Arguably the Logo

Are the only SGs I'm placing over Wade

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Dirk Nowitzki

Dwyane Wade

what life Dirk about ?

Wade 31 min last year Dirk 29 and avg more than Dirk.... Wade and kobe both missed alot of games last season kobe obviously missed more and Wade def played more min and avg more than Timmy so again what's you dudes agenda ? nikka dirk played 77 games to Wade's 62 still couldn't avg more

And Dirk's team made the playoffs. In the West.

Something like 3 or 4 games away from being like the 3 seed

Meanwhile Wade playing in the EAST. With Bosh, Whiteside, and Dragic at various times last season.


And he missed the playoffs


In the East

Meanwhile the Brooklyn Nets and Boston fukkin Celtics made the playoffs in the East

Milwaukee Bucks with no Jabari making the playoffs over Wade and help




Tell me again about those DWade numbers

 

[Draje]

And Dirk's team made the playoffs. In the West.

Something like 3 or 4 games away from being like the 3 seed

Meanwhile Wade playing in the EAST. With Bosh, Whiteside, and Dragic at various times last season.


And he missed the playoffs


In the East

Meanwhile the Brooklyn Nets and Boston fukkin Celtics made the playoffs in the East

Milwaukee Bucks with no Jabari making the playoffs over Wade and help




Tell me again about those DWade numbers

The whole season went that way, even before Bosh stepped away at the All-Star break with blood clots in his lungs and even after bringing in Dragic. The ailments ranged from run-of-the-mill hamstring strains and knee bruises to oddities such as a lacerated hand and a third-degree blister on the underside of the foot.

Miami started a league-high 20 players and used a team-record 30 starting combinations. The two best teams in the league, Golden State and Atlanta, started 12 players or fewer and got at least 65 games out of every starter.

There is an easy knock on Spoelstra when critics list the names on his roster. The argument goes like this: When you start the year with Bosh, Wade and Deng, and you pick up an emerging star in Whiteside, then you end the year with Wade, Deng, Whiteside and Dragic, that ought to be enough to make the playoffs.


Rash of injuries

All of the Heat’s top players missed at least 10 games this season, led by highly paid star Chris Bosh’s 38 absences. Here is a look at the health issues endured by the eight best players on the team.

Player;Played hurt*;Out

Dwyane Wade;6;19

Chris Bosh;4;38

Goran Dragic;2;3

Josh McRoberts;5;65

Luol Deng;8;10

Hassan Whiteside;13;10

Chris Andersen;12;22

Udonis Haslem;10;8

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Yes, I know the team dealt with injuries.

But you guys want it both ways. When the Heat do well, it's Wade being spectacular and carrying the load.

When the Heat don't do well, it's never his fault for not being the number 1 guy and failing to carry the load. He has to get some of the blame. I cannot absolve him of all fault for his team failing to make the playoffs in that conference. I don't expect him to go far with everything they dealt with, but to not even make it given the quality, or lack thereof, of teams in the East is a bad look for him.

You guys can gloss over it, but some of that falls on DWade, whether you like it or not.

It's not okay for Wade to not make the playoffs with Dragic and Whiteside at the end of the year but shytty ass squads like Brooklyn and Boston to make it. Wade is by far the best player on all 3 of those rosters.