Hit-Boy talks about going broke after producing "nikkas In Paris"

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As a grown man I can’t see how another grown able bodied man can lay up in another GROWN man’s crib on a subsidized lifestyle. shyt mad sus. I understand day 1’s but as a man you supposed to get it on your own and if your homie wants to help you become successful that’s cool but you still need to grind yourself.

That’s what makes Lebron and his day 1’s special. Lebron put em on and they took that and became successful themselves without leeching.
 

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Very good breakdown:


What you got to do is take that advance and see if you can buy some real estate or some kind of investment. Dude said he was paying rent in Beverly Hills and you know that ain't cheap. Not surprising I heard HB moved to Fontana for a minute.

There was another story Kenny had where he said he knew someone who got signed, bought a couple apartment buildings and never released anymore music.

Additionally, like others have said the money you make from making beats today is watered down bad. I remember somebody in some Discord saying they got placements with Future and the Weeknd for $40k total a few years back. That's a once-in-a-lifetime type of placement and you get $40k for that?

A lot of regular folks with careers make so much more money than many of these cats straight up. I know that for a fact.

That was before BeatStars where now you got cats/kids out there selling modern beats for $20 per pop because they think selling 5 of them is big money (can buy some hypebeast shoes).

It's a big reason why so many of these music dudes are pushing themselves more as a lifestyle brand kinda thing. That way you can sell a whole lotta other shyt, not just music and merch.
 

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Very good breakdown:


What you got to do is take that advance and see if you can buy some real estate or some kind of investment. Dude said he was paying rent in Beverly Hills and you know that ain't cheap. Not surprising I heard HB moved to Fontana for a minute.

There was another story Kenny had where he said he knew someone who got signed, bought a couple apartment buildings and never released anymore music.

Additionally, like others have said the money you make from making beats today is watered down bad. I remember somebody in some Discord saying they got placements with Future and the Weeknd for $40k total a few years back. That's a once-in-a-lifetime type of placement and you get $40k for that?

A lot of regular folks with careers make so much more money than many of these cats straight up. I know that for a fact.

That was before BeatStars where now you got cats/kids out there selling modern beats for $20 per pop because they think selling 5 of them is big money (can buy some hypebeast shoes).

this dude just tanked his credibility trying to make a producer plugin that has been panned in the production community to the point where people are now calling him a fraud. I only know him from youtube, his youtube show probably generated a decent income... he threw away years of credibility trying to sell an overpriced software plugin that doesn't work because that's what a lot of the producers are doing now

Jaceon Joshua who mixed despacito and is a big mix engineer has one called the god particle. it's the new cash grab for producers and mix engineers to have endorsed plugins. the last few years before that it was sample kits and before that just the official drum kits and master classes. times are tough out there. they making more money selling shyt to other people trying to make beats than they making off beats...

no steady income and no guarantees. I'm talking about "established producers as well.

the production lane is a grind these days and most people end up getting back way less than they would at a 9-5 for the time they put in. it will only get worse.
 

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this dude just tanked his credibility trying to make a producer plugin that has been panned in the production community to the point where people are now calling him a fraud. I only know him from youtube, his youtube show probably generated a decent income... he threw away years of credibility trying to sell an overpriced software plugin that doesn't work because that's what a lot of the producers are doing now

Jaceon Joshua who mixed despacito and is a big mix engineer has one called the god particle. it's the new cash grab for producers and mix engineers to have endorsed plugins. the last few years before that it was sample kits and before that just the official drum kits and master classes. times are tough out there. they making more money selling shyt to other people trying to make beats than they making off beats...

no steady income and no guarantees. I'm talking about "established producers as well.

the production lane is a grind these days and most people end up getting back way less than they would at a 9-5 for the time they put in. it will only get worse.
yep its the music version of the course hustle lol, didn't know kenny was getting in on it too lol. A lot of dudes got burned with NFT shyt too. Illmind was selling loop packs, getting awards of the placements he got from that, doing little meetups and talks before covid then he started pushing NFT shyt
 

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this dude just tanked his credibility trying to make a producer plugin that has been panned in the production community to the point where people are now calling him a fraud. I only know him from youtube, his youtube show probably generated a decent income... he threw away years of credibility trying to sell an overpriced software plugin that doesn't work because that's what a lot of the producers are doing now

Jaceon Joshua who mixed despacito and is a big mix engineer has one called the god particle. it's the new cash grab for producers and mix engineers to have endorsed plugins. the last few years before that it was sample kits and before that just the official drum kits and master classes. times are tough out there. they making more money selling shyt to other people trying to make beats than they making off beats...

no steady income and no guarantees. I'm talking about "established producers as well.

the production lane is a grind these days and most people end up getting back way less than they would at a 9-5 for the time they put in. it will only get worse.
Yeah I definitely know of a few cats like that as well (I was making beats up until last year).

It's really because these new producers are inexperienced and the gullible ones think x,y,z plugin is "the sauce" not knowing it's a real basic FX or that there are free plugins that do the exact same thing. They want to rush the process.

I always tell people that whatever DAW they're using has much more than enough plugins to get the job done. Classics that have billions of streams/listens were made with the stock plugins. If somebody learns about basic FX (reverb, distortion, phasers, etc.), hi-low filters and the main synthesis types (Subtractive, FM, Additive, Wavetable, Granular) then there aren't many sounds out there they won't know how to make from scratch or make the ones they hear in their head.

Really it's also about twisting knobs and seeing what happens, but a lot of folks are doing it for clout chasing: following "how to make this type beat" tutorials, buying this preset pack, that vst some producer is pushing, etc. That's why everything sounds the same as well.
 

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yep its the music version of the course hustle lol, didn't know kenny was getting in on it too lol. A lot of dudes got burned with NFT shyt too. Illmind was selling loop packs, getting awards of the placements he got from that, doing little meetups and talks before covid then he started pushing NFT shyt
I don't think he meant Kenny because dude has been 100% upfront and done good things for the producer community over the last few years.

shyt, if any major producer deserves to shill something it'd be that guy, but I think the most I've seen him market anything was probably signing up for a Splice account.

When dude first started streaming on twitch folks would ask about how he made certain beats and he'd open up the project right then and there and walk people through it. I learned a lot from those streams.

Kenny Beats and Lunch77 really did a ton for the producer community for free and although he sold presets and some slightly tweaked sounds, Nick Mira was also a big factor in teaching many people how to make beats while making placements that got all over the top 5 Spotify charts.
 
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from a production deal that didn't amount to jack shyt. surprised they didn't go after him. All he did was put out that 2 man group that never popped and tapes from him and Dom. This dude had charting monster songs and was flat broke.

I tell the coli brehs to stop believing everyone in entertainment is eating. dude is easily a top 10 % of active producers. so think about the realities of the game. Most producers don't have more than one monster hit. it's a fukking grind.
If you have multiple monster hits as a producer and are broke you just have a bad deal you shouldn't have signed.
 

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9 times outta 10, most mfs fucc the 💰 off the 1st time they really get to it. If you got some hustle in you though, u gon learn and make that back tenfold and keep it the next time
 
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