Hit songs with verses over 16 bar verses

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Ya but sometimes artists want to be or who they are mysterious...if not, then that's why me and most people get tired of artists, because we know them so well..if you dont have nothing new to add and nothing else to say, just retire..

There's a time and place for everything. If somebody just happened to write it without theory than I wouldn't be analyzing their work in an in-depth manner. There's genius within every hit song, almost mathematical . . when I hear people look at a hit song and talk about how it just shows that "it takes no talent to make it" that's usually a reflection of a simple mind . . definitely someone who has no expertise in songwriting, and when it is a songwriter who says something like that it's almost always a songwriter with no credentials

Have you heard the song Diamonds by Rihanna . . notice her voice on the chorus sounds annoying?

The appeal to an annoying vocal performance is it tends to stick to the listeners mind longer -

So I'll use "Thrift Shop" as an example . . the chorus is very corny and annoying, in the music video they make use of an unattractive girl in the video as the chorus is playing . . this AUTOMATICALLY makes the verses more appealing. This allows his style to be put on display. It gives the song more replay value because the chorus takes up a smaller portion of the listening experience.
 

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There's a time and place for everything. If somebody just happened to write it without theory than I wouldn't be analyzing their work in an in-depth manner. There's genius within every hit song, almost mathematical . . when I hear people look at a hit song and talk about how it just shows that "it takes no talent to make it" that's usually a reflection of a simple mind . . definitely someone who has no expertise in songwriting, and when it is a songwriter who says something like that it's almost always a songwriter with no credentials

Have you heard the song Diamonds by Rihanna . . notice her voice on the chorus sounds annoying?

The appeal to an annoying vocal performance is it tends to stick to the listeners mind longer -

So I'll use "Thrift Shop" as an example . . the chorus is very corny and annoying, in the music video they make use of an unattractive girl in the video as the chorus is playing . . this AUTOMATICALLY makes the verses more appealing. This allows his style to be put on display. It gives the song more replay value because the chorus takes up a smaller portion of the listening experience.

But a lot of those artists that have hit songs, didn't know they were gonna be hits as they were writing it..I think it's like that with all music...they always say, " i didn't know it was gonna be hit"
 

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The song you didn't like that your people choose to put out, became a hit. It's not like Biggie wrote juicy with a hit in mind cuz he liked that song which he didn't at the time...he didn't have to emphasize how his verses were structured and what he should say..
 

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But a lot of those artists that have hit songs, didn't know they were gonna be hits as they were writing it..I think it's like that with all music...they always say, " i didn't know it was gonna be hit"

To the contrary my friend . . humble people inspire :bow: . . . cocky people inspire :usure:


That may be the case sometimes. Major label artists are active in the process of writing a hit song, it's needed to green light the project and they are constantly receiving pressure to do so

Example: Eminem was so frustrated with labels demands to reiterate the success and appeal of "Hi My Name Is" that it inspired the song "Way I Am" . . right after getting that off his chest his prayers were answered and "Real Slim Shady" was the next song he wrote and recorded.
 

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Definitely amongst the biggest hits hip-hop has ever scene - achieved mainstream pop levels of success -
 
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The annoying factor is used frequently in advertising as well .

It works .

Especially for people like me that have a low tolerance to bullshyt . All I can think about is Rhianna and buying roof tiles.
 
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