HL Climate Change Thread: Fare the well old world

[zerozero]

it's not even that hard to understand on a basic level

when you put carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, you produce a greenhouse effect

the carrying capacity of the air and ocean for extra carbon dioxide has long been tapped out

we're in a greenhouse effect RIGHT NOW

 

[daze23]

your in a losing battle bytch

and to the the idiot...

go f*ck yourselves b*tches

 

[Serious]

shut your feminine apu sounding ass up...i'm coming for all you faq hags and raining hell to a podcast near you

book it!

shots fired.....

@ apu

 

[Gallo]

there is no proof that those long term claims are going to happen. Nothing concrete has ever been layed out in fact 30 years prior there was talk of an ice age

Forget about the science, lets say that there is a 99% chance that you're right that long-term CO2 trend won't cook the planet. Are you willing to take that 1% chance that you may be wrong? Are you willing to risk the future of your children and their children on that 1% for short-term economic interest?

 

[daze23]

Forget about the science, lets say that there is a 99% chance that you're right that long-term CO2 trend won't cook the planet. Are you willing to take that 1% chance that you may be wrong? Are you willing to risk the future of your children and their children on that 1% for short-term economic interest?

Sly thinks a 10% chance = "very rare"

 

[Type Username Here]

If 97 out of 100 doctors told Sly that he needed to change his diet today so he could live past next week, he'd change it in a heartbeat.

 

[Slystallion]

Forget about the science, lets say that there is a 99% chance that you're right that long-term CO2 trend won't cook the planet. Are you willing to take that 1% chance that you may be wrong? Are you willing to risk the future of your children and their children on that 1% for short-term economic interest?

Using a condom is 99% chance of not catching HIV. Are you willing to take that 1% chance and not have sex with beautiful women? I thought so

 

[Gallo]

Using a condom is 99% chance of not catching HIV. Are you willing to take that 1% chance and not have sex with beautiful women? I thought so

That's not analogous, but I would if the future of the world depended on it. You're still selfishly thinking about your self-interests only.

 

[Slystallion]

I would if the future of the world depended on it. You're still selfishly thinking about yourself only.

Greed is good

 

[zerozero]

the problem with the price-based concern is that you have externalized the costs of pollution. once upon a time companies spewed chemicals into rivers and streams in town and we recognized that economically speaking what they're doing is passing the cost and effects of their toxins onto the community. the whole carbon industry has a lot of hidden subsidies all the way from maintaining external political alliances to things like the Deepwater Horizon spill to the fumes coming out of coal plants and cars not being controlled or offset

we vastly underpay for what we're actually doing when we're burning dead trees & dinosaurs

 

[Gallo]

Greed is good

Glad we established your sociapathy.

 

[zerozero]

The other problem is that developed countries have already pumped out huge amounts of pollution during the industrial revolution till now (and continue to do so) but the whole world has to pay the price for it .. and now that developing countries are also industrializing they're coming late to the picture and having a lot of pressure put on them to not burn so much coal. Countries like America (& Western Europe) already got huge amounts of first-mover advantage in terms of not facing consequences for CO2 emissions.

 

[Slystallion]

Glad we established your sociapathy.

Your the sociopath willing to put thousands out of work and harm prosperity for all individuals for a 1% chance that sometime in the future it might be 1 degree warmer

We both are looking out for people difference is I'm going with the more rational sane decision of keeping people employed an the economy prosperous for something that isn't proven to be an imminent nor a threat down the line.

Go ahead go and Fire little Jimmy's dad who is a coal miner and tell him they are going have to starve a little bit.

 

[Gallo]

Your the sociopath willing to put thousands out of work and harm prosperity for all individuals for a 1% chance that sometime in the future it might be 1 degree warmer

We both are looking out for people difference is I'm going with the more rational sane decision of keeping people employed an the economy prosperous for something that isn't proven to be an imminent nor a threat down the line.

Go ahead go and Fire little Jimmy's dad who is a coal miner and tell him they are going have to starve a little bit.

You're highlighting the economic costs without considering the cost benefits. We'll be getting lower environmental and public health costs and perhaps avert future catastrophe at the cost of some jobs which will have to be made up somewhere else in the economy. That could be done in a lot of different ways like some kind of public investment, say in green energy or mass transit.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

To say the planet is heating up because of combustible energy is a joke. There have been multiple times in the history of the world where there was a lot of carbon in the atmosphere. Pre automobile and 7 billion people. Its just another way to create a case to further tax human beings and gain more control over our lives and livelihood. Its so demonic, friend.