HL Climate Change Thread: Fare the well old world

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Unless climate change is just as important to the rest of the world as it is to Americans what is the point in talking about it?

Outside of population control or recycling programs i just don't see a guaranteed solution.

Therefore: fukc it. Let NYC, MIA etc go underwater? Let Cali run out of water?

If we assume this is actually happening then it's not really about a way to totally fix it next year. If we don't fix it we can destroy the world as we know it.

You must be assuming this can be ignored.
 

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These fukkers dont realize (in the US at least) that updating our crumbling infrastructure (16th in the world out of 1st world countries P.S. that blows) would dramatically reduce carbon emissions from automobiles.

Elaborate on this.
 

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Elaborate on this.

If you want I can go very in depth and send you PDFs of some of my Civil Engineering textbooks and if I wasnt at school already Id be down to get heavy into this.

But a high level summary would go as follows.

US infrastructure is extremely old and very poorly tended to, as you are probably aware. Roads were originally designed to handle about a THIRD of the cars on the road today. I cannot remember the exact percentage but it is something alarming (I took transportation engineering two semesters ago).

This in turn leads to what we call traffic, which leads to constantly running autos for X amount of time longer than they should be. You could factor in the excess amount of capacity they were originally designed for and now a larger traffic density value and get an idea of how much shyt is getting jammed up along our roadways.

Furthermore, the crumbling structures lead to damaged vehicles, accidents, and all around fukkery...think of the Minny Bridge collapse etc...

Now this article isnt high science or anything but it gives you a laymans view of how bad Jersey roads are.

http://njmonthly.com/articles/jersey-living/why-jersey-roads-suck/

In the end though, transportation is only one of the contributors to our issue. If memory serves me power generation still leads the way at 40% while transportation comes in at 25%
 

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If you want I can go very in depth and send you PDFs of some of my Civil Engineering textbooks and if I wasnt at school already Id be down to get heavy into this.

But a high level summary would go as follows.

US infrastructure is extremely old and very poorly tended to, as you are probably aware. Roads were originally designed to handle about a THIRD of the cars on the road today. I cannot remember the exact percentage but it is something alarming (I took transportation engineering two semesters ago).

This in turn leads to what we call traffic, which leads to constantly running autos for X amount of time longer than they should be. You could factor in the excess amount of capacity they were originally designed for and now a larger traffic density value and get an idea of how much shyt is getting jammed up along our roadways.

Furthermore, the crumbling structures lead to damaged vehicles, accidents, and all around fukkery...think of the Minny Bridge collapse etc...

Now this article isnt high science or anything but it gives you a laymans view of how bad Jersey roads are.

http://njmonthly.com/articles/jersey-living/why-jersey-roads-suck/

In the end though, transportation is only one of the contributors to our issue. If memory serves me power generation still leads the way at 40% while transportation comes in at 25%

So the solution to climate change is spend the war budget on new roadways, sounds good to me.
 

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well thats not exactly what I am saying but yes more practical delegation of some of our funds (in my opinion IDK 3 Billion, half it, why we gotta kill so many homies...jk) would make a significant impact as well as provide jobs for people needing to update that shyt. You know why our grandparents were so well off? Its because we were constantly building shyt during those days.

In my utopian view of the world we could perhaps revisit those times and have our own little renaissance today.

Truth is though, a lot of the military tech trickles down to shyt we see everyday especially in the medical fields. But you know...gotta pay Northrupp for that new stealth:wow:
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex
 

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Rubio’s 2010 comments to the Tampa Tribune -- when he said, "I don't think there's the scientific evidence to justify it" -- represent the clearest evidence in support of the group’s charge. In that comment, Rubio does sound like he is denying the existence of science that supports the climate change hypothesis.

Since then -- including on four separate occasions this year -- Rubio has expressed opposition to climate change policies while speaking more cautiously about the science that proves climate change is happening. On one of those occasions in February, he even conceded that he’s seen "reasonable debate" about the question.

But in none of those instances did Rubio walk back his 2010 remarks, even though he had several opportunities to do so. We rate the claim Mostly True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...backing-barack-obama-says-marco-rubio-climat/

But, fukk that. What bugs me is the fact that he's trying to play the fence. I don't Really know how he feels because he won't really take a position.

That's what makes it so difficult to keep up with politicians. They are so ambiguous at times you just can't really know who you're voting for
 

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Florida employee 'punished for using phrase climate change'


In a complaint against the state, worker says he was accused of violating policy and instructed to get a mental health evaluation after mentioning climate change



Governor Rick Scott has ardently denied that there is an unwritten ban on using the terms climate change and global warming. Photograph: Chris O'Meara/AP
Katherine Krueger in New York

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Thursday 19 March 2015 14.05 EDTLast modified on Friday 20 March 201511.04 EDT


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An employee of Florida’s environmental protection department was forced to take a leave of absence and seek a mental health evaluation for violating governor Rick Scott’s unwritten ban on using the phrases “climate change” or “global warming” under any circumstance, according to a complaint filed against the state.

Longtime employee Barton Bibler reportedly included an explicit mention of climate change in his official notes from a Florida Coastal Managers Forum meeting in late February, during which climate change, rising sea levels and the possible environmental impact of the Keystone XL Pipeline were discussed.

On 9 March, Bibler received a formal reprimand for “misrepresenting that ‘the official meeting agenda included climate change’”, according to a statement from Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (Peer), a nationwide non-profit that champions public employees’ rights and providers resources and guidance to whistleblowers using its network of members across the country.

Bibler was instructed to stay away from the office for two days and told he could return to work only after a mental health evaluation from his doctor verified his “fitness for duty”, the complaint said. In the letter to Florida’s inspector general, Candie Fuller, the state’s Peer director calls for a full investigation to the matter.

Bibler told the Miami Herald that he “didn’t get the memo” about the gag order, so when he introduced himself by congratulating other officials on the call for the “exciting” work they were doing to address climate change, the “reaction was mostly shock”.

News of the governor’s ban on the phrases first surfaced in early March, when theFlorida Center for Investigative Reporting found that the ban came from the top after Scott took office and appointed Herschel Vinyard Jr as DEP director.

Guardian requests for comment from Scott, the Florida inspector general and the environmental protection department were not immediately returned on Thursday, but Scott and representatives from his office have ardently deniedsuch a policy exists.

Scott has also long dodged questions about climate change with a refrain of “I’m not a scientist” and consistently misrepresented the state’s preparedness for rising sea levels.

Florida is particularly vulnerable to the effects of climate change, as 80% of the state’s residents live or work near the coasts and damage from recent storms, including hurricane Wilma, has caused billions of dollars in damage since 2005.

  • This article was amended on 19 March 2015. An earlier version said damage from hurricanes had caused billions of dollars in damage since 2005.
Florida employee 'punished for using phrase climate change'

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